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Old 12-17-14, 07:16 PM   #1
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Default U.S. Links North Korea to Sony Hacking

It seems they have found a "smoking gun":

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/wo...king.html?_r=0

In a side story, Dick Cheney is claiming the discovery was made thanks to 'enhanced' interrogations at Gitmo and GW Bush is calling for a reinvasion of Iraq...


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Old 12-17-14, 07:46 PM   #2
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In a side story, Dick Cheney is claiming the discovery was made thanks to 'enhanced' interrogations at Gitmo and GW Bush is calling for a reinvasion of Iraq...


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Old 12-17-14, 08:10 PM   #3
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If that evidence shows to be solid. the proper thing to do would be to show the film then - and make it crystal clear to Pyongyang that any hostile Northkorean action, attack or terror strike would inevitably lead to an immediate full scale military retaliation against NK that the regime would not survive.

To allow a precedent being created to self-censor media because a lunatic teror regime threatens hostilities if the media would not be censored, is unacceptable. It would mean that a whole nation allows to get taken hostage by some insane scumbag on the other side of the world. Is that the attitude America wants to get associated with? I do not want to believe that.
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Good point on the self-censorship. Another film has apparently bitten the dust:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6344520.html

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To allow a precedent being created to self-censor media because a lunatic teror regime threatens hostilities if the media would not be censored, is unacceptable. It would mean that a whole nation allows to get taken hostage by some insane scumbag on the other side of the world. Is that the attitude America wants to get associated with? I do not want to believe that.
Are you kidding? That's totally how America is now.

At least we have gay marriage.

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If it is true that release of the film has been cancelled I think it's tragic that a totalitarian regime like North Korea can use cyber terrorism to censor the free expression of Western movie makers. It brings to mind the bullying of Salman Rushdie after publication of The Satanic Verses. But although he had to go into hiding, at least the book was published and available. It makes you wonder what gets pulled next by cyber-threat... an unflattering quarterly report? A documentary? An expose?

We should have the freedom to laugh at Kim Jong-un and his ilk on the silver screen. This tradition stretches back to Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator. Or the Warner Brothers and Disney cartoons in the 1940s that lampooned Tojo, Hitler and Mussolini. Those cartoons may not have been politically correct, but those guys hardily deserved PC. Someone stated that the one thing dictators can not abide is being lampooned. Very true and all the more reason why the film should be released.
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What interests me is that the reports I hear say that the NK's "ordered" the hack rather than conducted it themselves. Ordered the attack from who I wonder?
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Whilst I don't agree with the film being pulled I think foremost in theatre companies minds will have been the possibility of any nut job or terrorist organisation carrying out the dirty deed/atrocity in the name of whatever anywhere in the world.
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Whilst I don't agree with the film being pulled I think foremost in theatre companies minds will have been the possibility of any nut job or terrorist organisation carrying out the dirty deed/atrocity in the name of whatever anywhere in the world.
That's the ironic part. A nation with a long history of blistering but mostly empty bluster managed to cow all these theater companies into ignominious retreat. But I guess it would only take one "lone wolf" effort, even a failed one, to cause a nation-wide panic.

It's not hard to worry that the response to The Interview will have a long lasting effect in terms of studios backing politically risky projects. Movie studios are already some of the most risk-averse businesses on Earth, and that's only becoming more and more true with every year. There are studio projects that will never get past the pitch stage, let alone get made if this trend continues.
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Broadcast it via the major TV networks - simultaneously in all states, at the same time!

Northkorea has just scored another intimidation victory over the US: I read the the plan to turn the comic "Pyongyang" into a movie, has been cancelled due to fears about Northkorean retaliation.

Charles Chaplin would cry.
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I think it was a cheap trick to get another NoKo thread started at subsim!


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