Jan Brewer had vetoed

[Armistead]

ah...meant has not had...anyway

"Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer announced Wednesday she has vetoed a controversial bill that would have allowed religious beliefs as a defense for denying service to gays and others"

Right decision? I thought she should at first, then found myself unsure after I heard all the arguments....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...s-rights-bill/

[Tchocky]

I don't think there are any arguments in favour of the bill that actually work.

[Jimbuna]

A potential hot potato...off to play hop scotch in the local minefield.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

A potential hot potato...off to play hop scotch in the local minefield.

Seriously.

I've heard of this Arizona "thing", but haven't really read much into it. I can only read so much politics before my head explodes. However, the very cursory glance i gave the issue, seems to put Freedom of Religion (an enumerated right), and Anti-Discrimination at odds with each other.

Um, Yeah, playing hop scotch in a mine field would be preferable then tackling that debate.

Edit: come to think about it, I may already have. Oh well.
Edit 2: Actually after further reading, thinking about it some more, I wadded in on an different subject entirely. This has nothing to do with marriage, but right to refuse service. Different topic. Scuse me while i enjoy myself in yonder minefield.

[Armistead]

Well, I've heard a few possibilities that I wondered about. For instance, say there's a gay printer open to the public and Westboro Baptist walks in wanting 100 "Gays Go TO Hell" signs printed, if he refused them service based on his ideals...could they sue?

[Tchocky]

That would have nothing to do with this bill since the objections aren't religious.

[Dread Knot]

She really had no choice. Once the lawmakers who voted for it reversed their stance, it was obvious it wouldn't pass if voted on today.

I'm actually amazed at how effective the opposition was. Remember in the not too distant past, when gay marriage was the ubiquitous wedge issue for Republicans? Now they are running scared of the issue. Even those who voted for it only a few days ago.

[Bilge_Rat]

It was a stupid bill to begin with, amazing how the GOP has the capacity to regularly shoot itself in the foot, glad Brewer realized that and vetoed the bill.

What if someone had refused to serve African-American customers out of a "sincere religious belief", how would that have gone over?

[Wolferz]

Freedom of religion is not an excuse for taking away the freedoms of your fellow citizens. Christians turning into the Taliban now?
I guess fanaticism comes in every flavor.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

It was a stupid bill to begin with, amazing how the GOP has the capacity to regularly shoot itself in the foot.

Easy to do when you keep wearing clown shoes.

The GOP needs to find some solid leadership and a direction soon. Fighting battles already lost and then refighting long lost battles to boot, is a one-way ticket to political irrelevance. Instead of allowing the party to keep it's focus in an election year on more mainstream concerns such as the economy or Obamacare, they once again seem to be dissipating their energies on social issues that divide even conservatives among themselves.