MK 48 vs akula

Berserker · 09-15-13, 01:31 PM

What is it with the mk48 and akukla subs?? No matter what i try the torp will go right past the akula or lose aquisition then go another direction.

.I have seen this in the chase mode...Is the akula resistant/invulnerable/invisible to mk 48's...Just what the hell is going on???

Pisces · 09-15-13, 05:27 PM

Is that with show truth on or off? In show truth off a contact may not be where the real object is.

Kapitan · 10-27-13, 05:43 AM

make sure your not firing on your shadow contact depending which sensor towed bow ect will depend if you get a mirror, tbh I think that's what your firing at if show truth is off.

Nexus7 · 11-03-13, 04:20 AM

But if he says the torpedo aquired...

Kapitan · 11-03-13, 05:24 AM

in the weapon station look at the torpedo as it gets near the submarine you should see two lines bearing out like a cone, well when the submarine is in those lines click pre enable then click enable again it should then lock but it must be inside the cone.

Pisces · 11-04-13, 02:53 PM

Also, the target needs to be within the torpedo depth limits: ceiling and floor. (which is most likely incorrectly set by the autocrew) If it is above or below it, the torpedo wouldn't detonate and just keep dancing around it until it looses track.

Oberon · 11-05-13, 01:17 AM

That's assuming it didn't track on a noisemaker, the ADCAP isn't invulnerable to them.

Basically I'd run through this checklist:

1) Be sure of your solution, if you have a contact on the towed array then make a course turn of about 45 degrees and watch the contacts on the waterfall. One bearing will change and the other will stay the same, the one that's stayed the same is your contact.

2) Get all available information on your contact, obviously you know it's an Akula, so that'll help you put in the TPK, and firm up the Target Motion Analysis. If you're doing that manually then the only real advise I can offer is screwing with it until the dots are lined up down the center of the line. I usually leave that to the autocrew on anything other than the 688i which I can just about remember how to do from playing Fast Attack.

3) Set the Mk48 to passive mode, and check the ceiling and depth limits, and keep the torpedo wire-guided for as long as you are able to. If he fires one back at you and you have to go evasive, then switch the torpedo to active and cut the wire, otherwise wait until the torpedo is fairly close to the target and then switch it to active. It should aqquire and then home in...and then probably miss. But no problem, by now your target will be panicking and making lots of noise which will only serve to give you a better idea where he is. Turn the torpedo around and take another run at it, eventually it should hit. If it doesn't then your TMA was likely off by a significant amount.

4) Do not cut the wire if the torpedo is pointing anywhere in your direction. Another lesson learnt from playing Fast Attack when I cut the wire on an ADCAP whilst attempting to sink a Kilo, unfortunately the torpedo was pointed back at me, and when the wire cut it went after the bigger and noisier target and thus I managed to kill myself with my own torpedo...

Keep practicing, TMA is a sod, but a good solution makes all the difference. Akulas are slippery customers, and they have a nasty sting in their tails, I can't remember off hand if they carry Skhvals, I know the Victors do, believe me, getting smacked by a Skhval is something you don't forget in a hurry. The Stallion can be a nasty surprise too when it plops into the water above you, even nastier if nuclear release has been authorised (thank god DW doesn't model the nuclear depth charges for the Stallion), but I think in time you'll nail your first Akula.

Happy Hunting.

09-15-13, 01:31 PM	#1
Berserker Aggressive skipper Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 328 Downloads: 2166 Uploads: 0	MK 48 vs akula What is it with the mk48 and akukla subs?? No matter what i try the torp will go right past the akula or lose aquisition then go another direction..I have seen this in the chase mode...Is the akula resistant/invulnerable/invisible to mk 48's...Just what the hell is going on??? __________________ Shoot,Move,Communicate..Kill,Destroy,Eradicate...

10-27-13, 05:43 AM	#3
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	make sure your not firing on your shadow contact depending which sensor towed bow ect will depend if you get a mirror, tbh I think that's what your firing at if show truth is off. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-03-13, 04:20 AM	#4
Nexus7 Commander Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 469 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	But if he says the torpedo aquired... __________________ If you are going through hell... keep going (Winston Churchill)

11-03-13, 05:24 AM	#5
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	in the weapon station look at the torpedo as it gets near the submarine you should see two lines bearing out like a cone, well when the submarine is in those lines click pre enable then click enable again it should then lock but it must be inside the cone. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

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09-15-13, 05:27 PM	#2
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Is that with show truth on or off? In show truth off a contact may not be where the real object is.

11-04-13, 02:53 PM	#6
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Also, the target needs to be within the torpedo depth limits: ceiling and floor. (which is most likely incorrectly set by the autocrew) If it is above or below it, the torpedo wouldn't detonate and just keep dancing around it until it looses track.

11-05-13, 01:17 AM	#7
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	That's assuming it didn't track on a noisemaker, the ADCAP isn't invulnerable to them. Basically I'd run through this checklist: 1) Be sure of your solution, if you have a contact on the towed array then make a course turn of about 45 degrees and watch the contacts on the waterfall. One bearing will change and the other will stay the same, the one that's stayed the same is your contact. 2) Get all available information on your contact, obviously you know it's an Akula, so that'll help you put in the TPK, and firm up the Target Motion Analysis. If you're doing that manually then the only real advise I can offer is screwing with it until the dots are lined up down the center of the line. I usually leave that to the autocrew on anything other than the 688i which I can just about remember how to do from playing Fast Attack. 3) Set the Mk48 to passive mode, and check the ceiling and depth limits, and keep the torpedo wire-guided for as long as you are able to. If he fires one back at you and you have to go evasive, then switch the torpedo to active and cut the wire, otherwise wait until the torpedo is fairly close to the target and then switch it to active. It should aqquire and then home in...and then probably miss. But no problem, by now your target will be panicking and making lots of noise which will only serve to give you a better idea where he is. Turn the torpedo around and take another run at it, eventually it should hit. If it doesn't then your TMA was likely off by a significant amount. 4) Do not cut the wire if the torpedo is pointing anywhere in your direction. Another lesson learnt from playing Fast Attack when I cut the wire on an ADCAP whilst attempting to sink a Kilo, unfortunately the torpedo was pointed back at me, and when the wire cut it went after the bigger and noisier target and thus I managed to kill myself with my own torpedo... Keep practicing, TMA is a sod, but a good solution makes all the difference. Akulas are slippery customers, and they have a nasty sting in their tails, I can't remember off hand if they carry Skhvals, I know the Victors do, believe me, getting smacked by a Skhval is something you don't forget in a hurry. The Stallion can be a nasty surprise too when it plops into the water above you, even nastier if nuclear release has been authorised (thank god DW doesn't model the nuclear depth charges for the Stallion), but I think in time you'll nail your first Akula. Happy Hunting.