Adding Ships

Stew U-582 · 05-18-13, 08:46 PM

Hi guys,

I was interested in adding some more ships to sh5.
In the case of adding a merchant ship is it just
a matter of adding the apropriate files to the roster and sea
folders or do you need to add them to the campain files.

thanks

stew

Fifi · 05-18-13, 09:29 PM

Don't forget to add all new boat spec. for identification manual (stock and NewUIs)

Sartoris · 05-19-13, 04:06 AM

I hope you'll do it, I'd love to see more ship types!

gap · 05-19-13, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stew U-582

I was interested in adding some more ships to sh5.
In the case of adding a merchant ship is it just
a matter of adding the apropriate files to the roster and sea
folders or do you need to add them to the campain files.

better waiting for an answer by Trevally, but I think that your new merchant ships would be spawned within "generic" traffic

Trevally. · 05-19-13, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap

better waiting for an answer by Trevally, but I think that your new merchant ships would be spawned within "generic" traffic

Yes - if your ships are working for SH5 - their unit type will add them to convoys etc

gap · 05-19-13, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Yes - if your ships are working for SH5 - their unit type will add them to convoys etc

@ Trevally

as we are at it, I have a couple of questions:

- does unit's nationality matter for their spawning in generic traffic?
- for warships and planes, does it work the same as for merchaant ships? In particular, would new aircraft need to be added to each base for them to be deployed by it?

Trevally. · 05-19-13, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap

@ Trevally

as we are at it, I have a couple of questions:

- does unit's nationality matter for their spawning in generic traffic?

Yes - convoys/traffic/taskforce etc that are spawned by the node gen within a campaign layer are controlled by country.

So a typical convoy will be from a gen node that states the convoy/traffic name speed etc
This convoy name is built up of random or strict settings. Here is convoy AX3:-

Code:

 
[AX3_]
Role=1
Doctrine=0
EscortPosition=1
EscortSpacing=900.000000
ConvoyRowSpacing=900.000000
ConvoyColSpacing=900.000000
Columns=0
IsWolfPack=false
 
[AX3_.EscortUnit 1]
Type=4
CountryName=Italian
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=2
SpawnProbability=50
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.EscortUnit 2]
Type=4
CountryName=Italian
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=3
SpawnProbability=20
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 1]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=4
SpawnProbability=100
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 2]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=3
SpawnProbability=50
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 3]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=20
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 4]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=20
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 5]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=20
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 6]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=20
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 7]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=20
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 8]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=20
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 9]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=20
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 10]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=100
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 11]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=100
GroupLinkId=0
 
[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 12]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=100
GroupLinkId=0

Here is unit 12

[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 12]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=100
GroupLinkId=0

As you can see there are some areas where it will follow rules - it will be German and a type 102 - cargo and rcrew rating are set.
Spawn prob will ensure that the convoys change if they are used more than once.

Here is the gen node :-

[LanesGraph.Node 63.NodeGroup 2]
Type=AX3_
Name=AX3
Country=German
Speed=9.000000
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
ReportPosTime=-1
ReportPosProbability=0

[LanesGraph.Node 63.NodeGroup 2.NGMission 1]
Name=Tobruk
ObjectiveType=0
TargetNode=Tobruk
PathNodes=
UsePath=false
CooldownMonths=0
CooldownDays=16.000000
CrtCooldownHours=12.000000
CooldownHours=1
Priority=0
RewardPoints=0
StartDate=19420622
EndDate=19420901

So - add new ships and the type will suck them into the convoy system if the country roster has them

Quote:

- for warships and planes, does it work the same as for merchaant ships? In particular, would new aircraft need to be added to each base for them to be deployed by it?

The planes are set by country and class name - here is an airfield and how it uses planes:-

[Unit]
ClassName=CapeMayNAS_US
3DModelFileName=data/Land/LAB_LargeAirBaseUS/LAB_LargeAirBaseUS
UnitType=406
MaxSpeed=0.000000
MinSpeed=0.000000
Length=1
Width=1

[AirGroup 1]
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
Squadron1Class=LBSUSMedWar
Squadron1No=3
Squadron2Class=SUSFloatEarlyWar
Squadron2No=20

So here we can add new air groups by date to bring in new planes or we can use the campaign layers to add new airfields

NeonsStyle · 05-19-13, 03:08 PM

And more colours too please.

I'm getting bored
with the rust look lol Some rust is good.....

gap · 05-20-13, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Yes - convoys/traffic/taskforce etc that are spawned by the node gen within a campaign layer are controlled by country.

...

Here is unit 12

[AX3_.ConvoyUnit 12]
Type=102
CountryName=German
ExternalCargo=-1
InternalCargo=-1
CrewRating=2
Weapons=0
Sensors=0
Tactics=0
Camouflage=0
Required=false
No=1
SpawnProbability=100
GroupLinkId=0

As you can see there are some areas where it will follow rules - it will be German and a type 102 - cargo and rcrew rating are set.
Spawn prob will ensure that the convoys change if they are used more than once.

Thank you for your detailed answer Trevally. Everything is more or less clear here. Something drew my attenction though: it is the Camouflage setting. Does it mean that additional skins need to be activated for the game to use them in campaign? can this be the reason that only the first skin set in roster cfg files is applied duing test missions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Here is the gen node :-

[LanesGraph.Node 63.NodeGroup 2]
Type=AX3_
Name=AX3
Country=German
Speed=9.000000
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
ReportPosTime=-1
ReportPosProbability=0

[LanesGraph.Node 63.NodeGroup 2.NGMission 1]
Name=Tobruk
ObjectiveType=0
TargetNode=Tobruk
PathNodes=
UsePath=false
CooldownMonths=0
CooldownDays=16.000000
CrtCooldownHours=12.000000
CooldownHours=1
Priority=0
RewardPoints=0
StartDate=19420622
EndDate=19420901

So - add new ships and the type will suck them into the convoy system if the country roster has them

One more question: how cooldown settings are used? I know you explained them many times in OH's forum, but I was inattentive and I can't find your explainations anymore

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevally.

The planes are set by country and class name - here is an airfield and how it uses planes:-

[Unit]
ClassName=CapeMayNAS_US
3DModelFileName=data/Land/LAB_LargeAirBaseUS/LAB_LargeAirBaseUS
UnitType=406
MaxSpeed=0.000000
MinSpeed=0.000000
Length=1
Width=1

[AirGroup 1]
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231
Squadron1Class=LBSUSMedWar
Squadron1No=3
Squadron2Class=SUSFloatEarlyWar
Squadron2No=20

So here we can add new air groups by date to bring in new planes or we can use the campaign layers to add new airfields

One last

You said "planes are set by country and class name", but I cannot see any mention to nationality in the above code...

05-18-13, 08:46 PM	#1
Stew U-582 Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 266 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 0	Adding Ships Hi guys, I was interested in adding some more ships to sh5. In the case of adding a merchant ship is it just a matter of adding the apropriate files to the roster and sea folders or do you need to add them to the campain files. thanks stew __________________ Captain Stu from Down Under , Down Under

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05-19-13, 04:06 AM	#3
Sartoris Captain Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 489 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	I hope you'll do it, I'd love to see more ship types!

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NeonsStyle Chief Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Australia Posts: 326 Downloads: 195 Uploads: 0	And more colours too please. I'm getting bored with the rust look lol Some rust is good.....