Imagine a Silent Hunter game with this water...

mookiemookie · 04-29-13, 08:52 AM

http://mashable.com/2013/04/25/video-water-games/

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Although graphics in 3D computer games has gone really far in the last decade or so, the water in most of them does not look very real — especially when you throw a couple of solid objects into it.

Now, a new fluid simulation algorithm, called "Position Based Fluids" (PBD) makes it look easy, with water bouncing off objects in a startlingly realistic fashion.

It's almost hypnotic...

Onkel Neal · 04-29-13, 08:59 AM

Yeah, amazing. Computer graphics have come

Father Goose · 04-29-13, 09:14 AM

Thanks for sharing that. Can you imagine a Silent Hunter sim with that water? Will we ever see it? It would be awesome.
But I'm happy with what we have for I remember playing Silent Service on my Commodore 64.

AVGWarhawk · 04-29-13, 09:23 AM

I don't know. The color seems to be off no matter what ocean it is rending. How will my sub react to this fluid motion? Will this new generated water affect my torpedo path?

Just busting your hump. That water is very realistic IMO.

Where do I sign up for the beta testing of SHXIX?

Father Goose · 04-29-13, 09:34 AM

However before I buy into this water it would have to be "Fifi-approved"!

I would want him to do a thorough analysis and report his findings.

nikimcbee · 04-29-13, 09:34 AM

Pessimist says ubi will ruin it.

Takeda Shingen · 04-29-13, 09:52 AM

Realist says Ubi won't even get to the point of ruining it. Silent Hunter is a dead series.

Awesome link though, mookie. The future of water in video games.

NeonSamurai · 04-29-13, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I don't know. The color seems to be off no matter what ocean it is rending. How will my sub react to this fluid motion? Will this new generated water affect my torpedo path?

Just busting your hump. That water is very realistic IMO.

Where do I sign up for the beta testing of SHXIX?

I agree in part. I think the water was to oily and reflective looking more than the base color being a problem

mookiemookie · 04-29-13, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

I agree in part. I think the water was to oily and reflective looking more than the base color being a problem

Well I'm sure you could always tweak the color and texturing.

To borrow a phrase, "it's all about the the motion in the ocean."

NeonSamurai · 04-29-13, 11:54 AM

No it wasn't a textureing problem per se (i don't think that simulator uses textures in a traditional sense for the water). It was more how the colors shift and how reflectivity is generated which made it look too shiny and oily. That would probably be more an issue with the engine, or maybe the engine settings. There is also some other weirdness in how the water was moving, like forming strands in the air rather than separating into droplets, and it seems very resistant to separating.

nikimcbee · 04-29-13, 12:42 PM

It'd be cool if they could simulate an oil slick

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McBeck · 04-29-13, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Yeah, amazing. Computer graphics have come

Pfffttt....Thats like....perfect water compared to this

MH · 04-29-13, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

No it wasn't a textureing problem per se (i don't think that simulator uses textures in a traditional sense for the water). It was more how the colors shift and how reflectivity is generated which made it look too shiny and oily. That would probably be more an issue with the engine, or maybe the engine settings. There is also some other weirdness in how the water was moving, like forming strands in the air rather than separating into droplets, and it seems very resistant to separating.

No body is claiming that the simulation is perfect but it definitely looks better that the cloth like water in SH.

Im pretty sure that a lot of things can be tweaked and adjusted.
Also the algorithm is suposed to be relatively efficient and realistic while not being too heavy on resources.
It is a compromise for PCs.

Jimbuna · 04-29-13, 01:34 PM

Well I'd certainly settle for it but it's early days and probably further improvements will be forthcoming in the future.

nikimcbee · 04-29-13, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by McBeck

Pfffttt....Thats like....perfect water compared to this

post of the year.

I'll one up you:

There is this subsim:

How's the water on that? Gato's water is pretty realistic.

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NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	No it wasn't a textureing problem per se (i don't think that simulator uses textures in a traditional sense for the water). It was more how the colors shift and how reflectivity is generated which made it look too shiny and oily. That would probably be more an issue with the engine, or maybe the engine settings. There is also some other weirdness in how the water was moving, like forming strands in the air rather than separating into droplets, and it seems very resistant to separating. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff Last edited by NeonSamurai; 04-29-13 at 12:16 PM.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well I'd certainly settle for it but it's early days and probably further improvements will be forthcoming in the future. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Father Goose Sonar Guy Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Matalava Island Posts: 378 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Thanks for sharing that. Can you imagine a Silent Hunter sim with that water? Will we ever see it? It would be awesome. But I'm happy with what we have for I remember playing Silent Service on my Commodore 64.

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,255 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I don't know. The color seems to be off no matter what ocean it is rending. How will my sub react to this fluid motion? Will this new generated water affect my torpedo path? Just busting your hump. That water is very realistic IMO. Where do I sign up for the beta testing of SHXIX?

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Realist says Ubi won't even get to the point of ruining it. Silent Hunter is a dead series. Awesome link though, mookie. The future of water in video games.

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