US warships in Pacific relocation

Jimbuna · 06-02-12, 05:38 AM

I wonder how China will view this...not very positively I suspect

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The US is planning to move the majority of its warships to the Asia-Pacific region by 2020, Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has revealed.
He said that by 2020 about 60% of the US fleet would be deployed there, in the clearest indication yet of the new US strategy in Asia.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18305750

joegrundman · 06-02-12, 06:18 AM

by 2020 is in 8 years. if they wanted to they could shift "the majority" of their surface assets in a few months.

so, this is a posture, and this posture is dependent on there being no more major demands in the mediterranear/persian gulf region by that time, which could be the case if Iran is dealt with sooner rather than later. But in any case the intended recipients of this posture-message are those asia-pacific nations who currently are having to deal with the rising china, as well as china itself, and is mainly part of a concerted diplomatic strategy of persuading all those nations who feel china's influence keenest (vietnam, phillipines, japan, s.korea, burma(!!), indonesia, taiwan..australia even!) that the US is coming over real soon, and that it is too soon to be revising your international relationships in a pro-china manner.

Jimbuna · 06-02-12, 06:34 AM

^ A fair and accurate assessment imo but it will be interesting to see how the Chinese react...not with an arms race one would hope.

06-02-12, 06:57 AM

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not with an arms race one would hope

How about a boat race?

Skybird · 06-02-12, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

^ A fair and accurate assessment imo but it will be interesting to see how the Chinese react...not with an arms race one would hope.

The "arms race" they run already since a couple of years.

They modernise their forces and create additional builts with quite some priority.

Jimbuna · 06-02-12, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

How about a boat race?

So that's why there are so many dragon boats currently on the Thames.

Ducimus · 06-02-12, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

by 2020 is in 8 years. if they wanted to they could shift "the majority" of their surface assets in a few months.

so, this is a posture, and this posture is dependent on there being no more major demands in the mediterranear/persian gulf region by that time, which could be the case if Iran is dealt with sooner rather than later. But in any case the intended recipients of this posture-message are those asia-pacific nations who currently are having to deal with the rising china, as well as china itself, and is mainly part of a concerted diplomatic strategy of persuading all those nations who feel china's influence keenest (vietnam, phillipines, japan, s.korea, burma(!!), indonesia, taiwan..australia even!) that the US is coming over real soon, and that it is too soon to be revising your international relationships in a pro-china manner.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

^ A fair and accurate assessment imo but it will be interesting to see how the Chinese react...not with an arms race one would hope.

Interesting assessment. I wonder how economics will come into play. The majority of the goods available for purchase in the US are made in China.

Jimbuna · 06-02-12, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Interesting assessment. I wonder how economics will come into play. The majority of the goods available for purchase in the US are made in China.

Time to buy some of their naval assets perhaps

kraznyi_oktjabr · 06-02-12, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Time to buy some of their naval assets perhaps

Bureuacrat: Yes, YES! FINALLY! Sir! We found buyer for Type 051s. Admiral Jimbuna from the Royal Navy wants them.

Admiral: Excellent! Inform shipyards to expect new contracts. We got money for modernization... ...and also...
Bureaucrat: Yes, sir?
Admiral: ...ask my dear colleague if we wants Type 052s as well?

TLAM Strike · 06-02-12, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Time to buy some of their naval assets perhaps

I hear they are a great bargain...

em2nought · 06-02-12, 12:27 PM

Hopefully, we'll group all of our ships together in one big pacific harbor.

JU_88 · 06-02-12, 02:20 PM

Thes Chinese wont like it, but i think what happens to Global economy will determine the real future of U.S - Chinese relations.
Who still belives we are in a recovery?

Jimbuna · 06-02-12, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I hear they are a great bargain...

LOL

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Originally Posted by JU_88

Thes Chinese wont like it, but i think what happens to Global economy will determine the real future of U.S - Chinese relations.
Who still belives we are in a recovery?

Not me.

06-02-12, 06:18 AM	#2
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	by 2020 is in 8 years. if they wanted to they could shift "the majority" of their surface assets in a few months. so, this is a posture, and this posture is dependent on there being no more major demands in the mediterranear/persian gulf region by that time, which could be the case if Iran is dealt with sooner rather than later. But in any case the intended recipients of this posture-message are those asia-pacific nations who currently are having to deal with the rising china, as well as china itself, and is mainly part of a concerted diplomatic strategy of persuading all those nations who feel china's influence keenest (vietnam, phillipines, japan, s.korea, burma(!!), indonesia, taiwan..australia even!) that the US is coming over real soon, and that it is too soon to be revising your international relationships in a pro-china manner. __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ A fair and accurate assessment imo but it will be interesting to see how the Chinese react...not with an arms race one would hope. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hopefully, we'll group all of our ships together in one big pacific harbor. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

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JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Thes Chinese wont like it, but i think what happens to Global economy will determine the real future of U.S - Chinese relations. Who still belives we are in a recovery?