The Cruel Sea

jumpy · 03-10-12, 05:03 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cj83p
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cvgbp

a bit late

but this was BBC R4's classic serial - Nicholas Monsarrat's searing classic novel about the war in the North Atlantic.

Sailor Steve · 03-10-12, 05:42 PM

Cool! I never knew about the radio play.

jumpy · 03-10-12, 09:14 PM

I'd hoped it was going to be more episodes long, but it was a fair go when stacked against the book tbh.

...only trouble is he beeb is tight with their program archives

Iplayer is great for a catchup, but they don't often let you listen too far down the line.
Sorry I didn't post this before, as it looks like you'll only get to hear episode 2 now.

BossMark · 03-11-12, 02:20 AM

I never new this, when saw the thread I thought it was going to be about the classic film starring Jack Hawkins.
Thanks for the links jumpy

nikimcbee · 03-11-12, 08:56 AM

Snorkers!

Too bad we can't listen to the first episode. Is it possible to download?

Oberon · 03-11-12, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Snorkers!

Good oh!

Classic book.

nikimcbee · 03-11-12, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Good oh!

Classic book.

I've read his other book, "Three Corvettes".

When I was a kid, my parents bought me the book on tape "The Cruel Sea". I still have the second cassette someplace.

I think it was one of my starting points for my interest in subs\u-boats. That would have been around 1984.

Oberon · 03-11-12, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I've read his other book, "Three Corvettes".

When I was a kid, my parents bought me the book on tape "The Cruel Sea". I still have the second cassette someplace.

I think it was one of my starting points for my interest in subs\u-boats. That would have been around 1984.

Didn't know about 'Three Corvettes' will have to look that out.

nikimcbee · 03-11-12, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Didn't know about 'Three Corvettes' will have to look that out.

http://www.amazon.com/Three-Corvette.../dp/0304354449

Jimbuna · 03-11-12, 09:43 AM

For us Brits:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Three-Corvet...1476959&sr=1-1

If ordering please use the SubSim link.

Sailor Steve · 03-11-12, 01:21 PM

It sounds like an alternate, or earlier, version of this great book.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/068...&sr=1-1&seller=

I read a library copy during my homeless days and gave my opinion here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...9&postcount=90. This came up in a topic only a month ago and prompted me to find and buy a copy. I haven't started rereading it, but it's there when I want to.

Jimbuna · 03-11-12, 02:02 PM

Going off the information in that link I'm even more inclined to purchase it.

nikimcbee · 03-12-12, 08:13 PM

Okay, so I actually listened to it today and Lockhard sure sounded a lot like Strelnikov from Dr. Zhivago.

I don't remember this being a political novel.

So, if my memory is correct, and there are no political disscusions in "The Cruel Sea"; Wow, when the BBC pushes an agenda, they don't hide it at all.

jumpy · 03-12-12, 09:07 PM

Sure there are - crew chatter (I read it again just before christmas). CBA to dig out page references etc, but I think you misplace a 'bbc agenda' all the same.

Besides, there's only so many voice actors here you know.... be glad it was not Martin Jarvis

(r4 joke, sorry)

nikimcbee · 03-12-12, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jumpy

Sure there are - crew chatter (I read it again just before christmas). CBA to dig out page references etc, but I think you misplace a 'bbc agenda' all the same.

Besides, there's only so many voice actors here you know.... be glad it was not Martin Jarvis

(r4 joke, sorry)

Ha!, I knew it. It was the adaptation!

I found this:

Quote:

Fletcher's adaptation stressed the connection between life on board ship and the socialist spirit that prevailed in the post-war era, that led to the creation of the Welfare State

Source:
http://www.radiodramareviews.com/id949.html

I did find this about Monsarrat:

Quote:

As a young man, Monsarrat participated in left-wing politics. "We were like the young of all the world, since the world began," he recalled in his autobiography, Life Is a Four-Letter Word (1966-1970). "Everything was wrong: things could not go on like this; the universe was rightly doomed; war was on the way; freedom was denied, greed and lust for power still ruled our lives shamelessly." However, he never joined the Communist Party, and after visiting Spain on the eve of the Civil War, he began to grow disillusioned with Socialism.

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/monsarra.htm

03-10-12, 05:03 PM	#1
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	The Cruel Sea http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cj83p http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cvgbp a bit late but this was BBC R4's classic serial - Nicholas Monsarrat's searing classic novel about the war in the North Atlantic. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

03-10-12, 05:42 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Cool! I never knew about the radio play. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-10-12, 09:14 PM	#3
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I'd hoped it was going to be more episodes long, but it was a fair go when stacked against the book tbh. ...only trouble is he beeb is tight with their program archives Iplayer is great for a catchup, but they don't often let you listen too far down the line. Sorry I didn't post this before, as it looks like you'll only get to hear episode 2 now. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

03-11-12, 02:20 AM	#4
BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	I never new this, when saw the thread I thought it was going to be about the classic film starring Jack Hawkins. Thanks for the links jumpy __________________ Never trust the Tories look what Thatcher and Major did in the 80s and 90s and look what the wicked witch May is doing now doing now

03-11-12, 08:56 AM	#5
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Snorkers! Too bad we can't listen to the first episode. Is it possible to download? __________________

03-11-12, 09:43 AM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	For us Brits: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Three-Corvet...1476959&sr=1-1 If ordering please use the SubSim link. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-11-12, 01:21 PM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	It sounds like an alternate, or earlier, version of this great book. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/068...&sr=1-1&seller= I read a library copy during my homeless days and gave my opinion here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...9&postcount=90. This came up in a topic only a month ago and prompted me to find and buy a copy. I haven't started rereading it, but it's there when I want to. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-11-12, 02:02 PM	#12
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Going off the information in that link I'm even more inclined to purchase it. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-12-12, 08:13 PM	#13
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Okay, so I actually listened to it today and Lockhard sure sounded a lot like Strelnikov from Dr. Zhivago. I don't remember this being a political novel. So, if my memory is correct, and there are no political disscusions in "The Cruel Sea"; Wow, when the BBC pushes an agenda, they don't hide it at all. __________________

03-12-12, 09:07 PM	#14
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Sure there are - crew chatter (I read it again just before christmas). CBA to dig out page references etc, but I think you misplace a 'bbc agenda' all the same. Besides, there's only so many voice actors here you know.... be glad it was not Martin Jarvis (r4 joke, sorry) __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

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