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Old 10-14-11, 08:51 PM   #1
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Default New to 4, pretty good at 3

I recently purchased SH4 to see if my computer would run it, and didn't buy the u boat expansion (in case it didn't run...)

So now I can run it, but I'm very used to MaguiF for sh3, and find the keyboard controls and "TDC" difficult to manage.
So! I would deeply appreciate some recommendations for a new GUI, and a pointer to a good stock American TDC tutorial.

Thank you.
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Old 10-14-11, 09:40 PM   #2
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Actually you should get the Uboat expansion. Most of the mods are for v1.5, which you can only have with the expansion installed. You will have a tough time building a stable modded game without the expansion.

I highly recommend you check out one of the supermods - RFB (Real Fleet Boat), TMO (Trigger Maru Overhaul) or FOTRS (Fall of the Rising Sun) if you're interested in the US side, and OM (Operation Monsun) if you're interested in U-boats. All of them include certain interface changes (for better).
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Old 10-15-11, 12:20 AM   #3
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Actually you should get the Uboat expansion. Most of the mods are for v1.5, which you can only have with the expansion installed. You will have a tough time building a stable modded game without the expansion.
very good recommendation. You won't be disappointed.

Read Hitman's tutorial re Manual Targeting at 100% Realism. This will teach you everyting you need to know. Its link is the Popular Mods, etc. sticky thread posted by Neal Stevens in the Mods Forum. You will need to work through some examples with a pen and paper.

Also, downlaod the Easy Aob mod, as it makes manual targeting easier.

Once you get the correct speed, Aob and Range, the TDC will track the target unless it changes course or speed. You activate the TDC with the PK.

You might want to check out the Dick O'Kane method for broadside attacks where you do not activate the PK.

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Old 10-15-11, 07:18 AM   #4
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I too found using the TDC in Sh4 to be harder than in SH3. Not that the technique is that much different, but in SH3, it seems like I could do set ups a lot faster.

I echo getting 1.5 It really can't be considered an add-on but more a required patch. The good thing is that 1.5 is pretty cheap these days.

I would spend some time with stock 1.5 to get the feel for the game and the interface. That will put in you a much better position to start selecting from the approximately one billion mods that are out there.

Good luck with it. I had a pretty steep playing curve coming from 3 to 4, but I am happy I stuck with it.
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Old 10-15-11, 11:37 AM   #6
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I would spend some time with stock 1.5 to get the feel for the game and the interface. That will put in you a much better position to start selecting from the approximately one billion mods that are out there.
GFO (Game Fixes Only) supermod by Webster is designed for stock, and is designed for the the adding of various mods. It gives you a lot of flexibility before you decide on RFB, FOTRS and TMO.
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I would spend some time with stock 1.5 to get the feel for the game and the interface. That will put in you a much better position to start selecting from the approximately one billion mods that are out there.
GFO (Game Fixes Only) supermod by Webster is designed for stock, and is designed for the the adding of various mods. It gives you a lot of flexibility before you try RFB, FOTRS and TMO.
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Good advice
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Actually you should get the Uboat expansion. Most of the mods are for v1.5, which you can only have with the expansion installed.
Yep man, 1.5 (u-boat missions) is essential.
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Thanks everybody! I guess 1.5 is going on my Xmas list this year!

Is there a spot for info on OM somewheres?
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