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Old 09-12-11, 08:45 PM   #1
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Guys I play GWG and love it questions: Every so often I get a message saying "no Helmens' at station. What am I doing wrong? Also whay does the watch office disapear? How do I get them both back in Place?

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Old 09-12-11, 10:08 PM   #2
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What they call "Helmsman" is actually the Chief Engineer, the guy who stands at the front of the control room. He relays the orders for turning and diving, so you have to have someone in that position. In the Crew Management (F7) screen he is the officer on the left of the three. The middle one is the Navigator, and you need him to set a new course with the waypoints. The guy on the Right is the Weapons Officer and you need him to target ships.

It's a flaw in the game that the Watch officer never returns to the Bridge when you resurface after diving. You have to move him there yourself. H.sie's new mod fixes this, if you can use it.
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Guys I play GWG and love it questions: Every so often I get a message saying "no Helmens' at station. What am I doing wrong? Also whay does the watch office disapear? How do I get them both back in Place?

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The Watch Officer 'disappears' every time you submerge. He's actually 'hiding' in crew quarters so you have to push F7, (to access the crew management screen), and manually drag him back to his station.

Same for 'no helms', it basically means you don't have an officer assigned to the station. To get one there, push F7, and drag an officer to the first (leftmost) of the three command room slots.

Edit: Didn't mean to post basically the same answer twice, it's just that Steve beat me by a hair...
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Old 09-13-11, 09:27 AM   #4
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I'm going to butt in here for a sec as I have a question for some of you Kaleuns that have more U-Boat knowledge;
Where exactlyis the helm?? I mean the actual Wheel?! I know the Helmsman relays the steering orders but to whom and where!? IN the U.S boats (SH4) there are two stations available for steering, one, in the conning tower, is the main helm and the second in the control room is designated the emergency helm. I was roaming around the control room and the conning tower and have yet to find a Helm.
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Old 09-13-11, 09:52 AM   #5
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The control helm on a U-boat is right where the "chief" is standing. It should look like a box with two buttons on top, the box saying "BBC."
There should be another "BBC" box in the "bridge", right next to the Watch Officer.

edit: per dictionary.com:
helm:
noun
1. Nautical .
a. a wheel or tiller by which a ship is steered.
b. the entire steering apparatus of a ship.
c. the angle with the fore-and-aft line made by a rudder when turned: "15-degree helm".
2. the place or post of control: A stern taskmaster was at the helm of the company.

In short, it is both the "wheel" or apparatus, as well as the station that controls the heading of the ship. In the US Navy, "Helm, make your course three-five-zero." "Make my course three-five-zero, aye." (then the helm turns the rudder to accomplish the ordered course)
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The control helm on a U-boat is right where the "chief" is standing. It should look like a box with two buttons on top, the box saying "BBC."
There should be another "BBC" box in the "bridge", right next to the Watch Officer.

edit: per dictionary.com:
helm:
noun
1. Nautical .
a. a wheel or tiller by which a ship is steered.
b. the entire steering apparatus of a ship.
c. the angle with the fore-and-aft line made by a rudder when turned: "15-degree helm".
2. the place or post of control: A stern taskmaster was at the helm of the company.

In short, it is both the "wheel" or apparatus, as well as the station that controls the heading of the ship. In the US Navy, "Helm, make your course three-five-zero." "Make my course three-five-zero, aye." (then the helm turns the rudder to accomplish the ordered course)
Yes, thanks for the info. I didn't know that the boat had no wheelhouse type steering. I will have to study the workings of the U-Boats a bit more. Not that I thought that the box labeled "BBC" was British cable TV but I had no idea that it was the steering apparatus. Did this box merely communicate the steering orders like the Telegraph for the boats engine speed, or did it control the rudders directly? All in all, thanks for the reply, very enlightening. I love when I learn something totally new (for me anyway) about the Boats.
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The steering levers in the control room, conning tower and bridge positions are electrical connectors that directly control the steering motor, which is in the e-machine/aft torpedo room. There is also a hand wheel in that room which can be used in emergencies.
http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-570ONIReport.htm
B-VI, page 25.
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