U.S Postal Sevice to Close This Fall ?????

[yubba]

Finally ABC news reported something on Good Morning America, this mornig worth watching. Well this thread starts out as a question, so do your own homework, and if you don't like what the message is remember, you are the messenger you can either live with it or shoot yourself. More proof that Liberals can't even run a lemonaide stand. So how long has the Post Office been around ????? Seem's to me it started around Ben Franklins time, he was a great American, ah who am I kidding most people don't know who he is, or seem to care.

[AVGWarhawk]

The postal system will not close. It has run in the red for decades. It does not matter who is in office. Since the invention of email the USPS has struggled. The USPS will still be standing long after you and I are pushing up daisies. For now the fat will be trimmed and useless postal offices closed. Rain, sleet or snow you will see your mail in the mailbox. Even a few fliers ask for your vote from Obama.

[mookiemookie]

All I get is junk mail anyways.

This is just public leveraging from management for the inevitable union contract renegotiations. The unions will give up something and then life will go on as it has before.

[the_tyrant]

its not the liberals that killed it, its the internet
just think about this:

Within the last 10 years,
how many letters have you sent?
how many magazines have started to offer "electronic versions"?
how many times have you ordered something through traditional "mail order"?
how many offers did you get from banks, credit card companies, utilities companies offering to switch to paperless bills?

[joea]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

its not the liberals that killed it, its the internet
just think about this:

Within the last 10 years,
how many letters have you sent?
how many magazines have started to offer "electronic versions"?
how many times have you ordered something through traditional "mail order"?
how many offers did you get from banks, credit card companies, utilities companies offering to switch to paperless bills?

Well traditional letters have gone but for mail order? You have heard of Amazon? People still buy books and dvds believe it or not. Paper magazines too.

I still have to send my doctor bills to my insurance company for reimbursement as well.

Letters yea no question who writes them anymore!

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by joea

Well traditional letters have gone but for mail order? You have heard of Amazon? People still buy books and dvds believe it or not. Paper magazines too.

I still have to send my doctor bills to my insurance company for reimbursement as well.

Letters yea no question who writes them anymore!

Well maybe i wasn't too clear with the mail order.
I remember a few years back, people got catalogs, and they would write a check and mail it to the company. You really don't see people doing that anymore.

Also, many sellers on E-bay/Amazon prefers UPS or Fedex over the postal system

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Also, many sellers on E-bay/Amazon prefers UPS or Fedex over the postal system

When I buy online I always use USPS if possable since they seem to have the best rates, especially when its a single small item shipped using 1st class mail (like $3).

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by joea

Well traditional letters have gone but for mail order? You have heard of Amazon? People still buy books and dvds believe it or not. Paper magazines too.

I still have to send my doctor bills to my insurance company for reimbursement as well.

Letters yea no question who writes them anymore!

That's pretty much it. Use of the internet has reduced physical mail traffic by between 25 and 35 percent. Personally, I haven't seen the inside of a post office in years due to the fact that I never send letters anymore and I pay my bills electronically. I use UPS for parcel delivery because the service is better. To echo Mookie, the only thing the USPS puts in my mailbox are circulars and credit card offers.

The Postal Service and it's problems are, by and large, a symptom of changing technology. Sorry to punch holes in you boogyman, Yubba, but you can't blame this one on your hated liberals.

[AVGWarhawk]

has reduced physical mail traffic by between 25 and 35 percent.

I would bet it is higher. 10 years ago I would need two books of stamps per month for bills, etc. Today, I use 1 stamp per month. Just as video killed the radio star, the internet killed the USPS.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I would bet it is higher. 10 years ago I would need two books of stamps per month for bills, etc. Today, I use 1 stamp per month. Just as video killed the radio star, the internet killed the USPS.

Video never killed the radio star. Radio exists - both AM, FM and satellite. What they have done is become more responsive to their consumers. The TV - or MTV (where is the music in that anyway nowadays?) has done so only in some ways. Thus, both exist.

Electronic mail and other shipping providers have squeezed the USPS. The problem for the USPS is that, like any other governmental (or in this case, semi-governmental) agency, they (from the big picture, management position) do not see what they do as customer driven. Sure, your local postmaster may, but the ones who run the USPS into the ground don't. So, it has not adapted as it needs to.

Liberals did not kill the USPS, nor did Republicans, nor did unions (though unions do not help...). Government has put it on life support. But then again, it was a government abortion in a sense.

[Betonov]

Internet can only relay information. It cant deliver goods. And as long as there are at least two people on earth someone will want to send something to someone (quoting the dean of my faculty). Sending a small packet or greeting card between two people is still easier done by mail than curier services. Curier services don't have an office in every town. The postal service will never die. It will only adapt and streamline, shrink at worst.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by yubba

More proof that Liberals can't even run a lemonaide stand.

This has nothing to do with Liberals or Conservatives. You need to get over your unreasoning bias and learn how to actually discuss things.

So how long has the Post Office been around ????? Seem's to me it started around Ben Franklins time, he was a great American, ah who am I kidding most people don't know who he is, or seem to care.

So can you actually tell me anything about him? Or is he just a name to you? Yourself.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Sorry to punch holes in you boogyman, Yubba, but you can't blame this one on your hated liberals.

Oh yeah he can. That's what he does here.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Oh yeah he can. That's what he does here.

I don't know whether to Godwin this thread or not...I think I'll let someone else do it, found a nice anti-communist poster from Germany which I think covers the usual rhetoric...either that or a McCarthy poster.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

its not the liberals that killed it, its the internet

so wait? not everything is a liberal conspiracy?