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Old 06-05-11, 05:28 AM   #1
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Default 18 Signs That Life In U.S. Public Schools Is Now Essentially Equivalent To Life In...

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In the United States today, our public schools are not very good at educating our students, but they sure are great training grounds for learning how to live in a Big Brother police state control grid. Sadly, life in many U.S. public schools is now essentially equivalent to life in U.S. prisons. Most parents don't realize this, but our students have very few rights when they are in school. Our public school students are being watched, tracked, recorded, searched and controlled like never before.
The following are 18 signs that life in our public schools is now very similar to life in our prisons....

#1 Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has announced that school officials can search the cell phones and laptops of public school students if there are "reasonable grounds for suspecting that the search will turn up evidence that the student has violated or is violating either the law or the rules of the school."


#2 It came out in court that one school district in Pennsylvania secretly recorded more than 66,000 images of students using webcams that were embedded in school-issued laptops that the students were using at home.


#3 If you can believe it, a "certified TSA official" was recently brought in to oversee student searches at the Santa Fe High School prom.


#4 A few years ago a class of 3rd grade students at one Kentucky elementary school were searched by a group of teachers after 5 dollars went missing. During the search the students were actually required to remove their shoes and their socks.


#5 At one public school in the Chicago area, children have been banned from bringing their lunches from home. Yes, you read that correctly. Students at that particular school are absolutely prohibited from bringing lunches from home. Instead, it is mandatory that they eat the food that the school cafeteria serves.


#6 The U.S. Department of Agriculture is spending huge amounts of money to install surveillance cameras in the cafeterias of public schools so that government control freaks can closely monitor what our children are eating.


#7 A teenager in suburban Dallas was recently forced to take on a part-time job after being ticketed for using bad language in one high school classroom. The original ticket was for $340, but additional fees have raised the total bill to $637.


#8 It is not just high school kids that are being ticketed by police. In Texas the crackdown extends all the way down to elementary school students. In fact, it has been reported that Texas police gave "1,000 tickets" to elementary school kids over a recent six year period.


#9 A few months ago, a 17 year-old honor student in North Carolina named Ashley Smithwick accidentally took her father's lunch with her to school. It contained a small paring knife which he would use to slice up apples. So what happened to this standout student when the school discovered this? The school suspended her for the rest of the year and the police charged her with a misdemeanor.


#10 A little over a year ago, a 6 year old girl in Florida was handcuffed and sent to a mental facility after throwing temper tantrums at her elementary school.


#11 In early 2010, a 12 year old girl in New York was arrested by police and marched out of her school in handcuffs just because she doodled on her desk. "I love my friends Abby and Faith" was what she reportedly wrote on her desk.


#12 There are actually some public schools in the United States that are so paranoid that they have actually installed cameras in student bathrooms.


#13 Down in Florida, students have actually been arrested by police for bringing a plastic butter knife to school, for throwing an eraser, and for drawing a picture of a gun.


#14 The Florida State Department of Juvenile Justice has announced that it will begin using analysis software to predict crime by young delinquents and will place "potential offenders" in specific prevention and education programs.


#15 A group of high school students made national headlines a while back when they revealed that they were ordered by a security guard to stop singing the national anthem during a visit to the Lincoln Memorial.


#16 In some U.S. schools, armed cops accompanied by police dogs actually conduct surprise raids with their guns drawn. , you can actually see police officers aiming their guns at school children as the students are lined up facing the wall.


#17 Back in 2009, one 8 year old boy in Massachusetts was sent home from school and was forced to undergo a psychological evaluation because he drew a picture of Jesus on the cross.


#18 This year, 13 parents in Duncan, South Carolina were actually ticketed for cheering during a high school graduation.




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Old 06-05-11, 05:52 AM   #2
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I didn't see solitary confinement blocks in the list. When are they going to start building those?
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Old 06-05-11, 07:05 AM   #3
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When did kids start getting rights?

When I was a kid the only rights were the ones given to us by my parents.

I could just imagine telling my mother, "you can't do that. I have rights"

She would have given me a right all right, followed up by a left.
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Old 06-05-11, 07:39 AM   #4
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Isn't it amazing that so many of those stories are not what they are presented as.
Those that are what they are presented as are mainly result of when parents have insisted on strong measures and zero tolerance, then suddenly getting upset when their poor little angels who really honestly never do anything wrong at all get caught up catching flak from the zero tolerance for their wrongdoing.......apart of course from the graduation story where it is parents acting like selfish idiots over a measure that had to be adopted because parents were getting annoyed by parents acting like selfish idiots.

Though I am shocked that the Florida school with that six year old allowed that crap to go on for so long and only sent her to the mental hospital after she kicked a pregnant woman in the belly.
Is there any way thery could have sent the childs parents to the bin as well?
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Old 06-05-11, 08:43 AM   #5
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Isn't it amazing that so many of those stories are not what they are presented as.
Those that are what they are presented as are mainly result of when parents have insisted on strong measures and zero tolerance, then suddenly getting upset when their poor little angels who really honestly never do anything wrong at all get caught up catching flak from the zero tolerance for their wrongdoing.......apart of course from the graduation story where it is parents acting like selfish idiots over a measure that had to be adopted because parents were getting annoyed by parents acting like selfish idiots.

Though I am shocked that the Florida school with that six year old allowed that crap to go on for so long and only sent her to the mental hospital after she kicked a pregnant woman in the belly.
Is there any way thery could have sent the childs parents to the bin as well?
On the other hand some of those stories are a bit concerning, like the honors student who was suspended, or large fines being levied against kids for stuff like swearing and the like. I also do not agree with forcing kids to eat from the cafeteria.
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Old 06-05-11, 09:09 AM   #6
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Ahh the surveillance society Who knows? Maybe what we're looking at is the extinction of politicians.

In about 10 or 20 years when these kids try to run for office, there probably won't be an incriminating photo, comment or situation that can't be dredged up by their opponent, recorded years earlier by a surveillance camera, cell phone, or facebook page. And vice versa. The result? No one runs.
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Old 06-05-11, 12:01 PM   #7
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#5 At one public school in the Chicago area, children have been banned from bringing their lunches from home. Yes, you read that correctly. Students at that particular school are absolutely prohibited from bringing lunches from home. Instead, it is mandatory that they eat the food that the school cafeteria serves.

Yeah what a brutal offense to the poor kids, forced to eat something healthy instead of Supersize McDonurger King Menues.
So at least 0,000000001 % of the american kids will not become a 600 pound fatty until they enter College.
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Old 06-05-11, 02:54 PM   #8
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Yeah what a brutal offense to the poor kids, forced to eat something healthy instead of Supersize McDonurger King Menues.
So at least 0,000000001 % of the american kids will not become a 600 pound fatty until they enter College.
im afraid i dont see any truth in your stereotypical point of view. I could insult you and your country too, but im bigger then that.

Everyone i went to school with ate sandwiches in their lunch. maybe a granola bar, maybe a cookie.

The school cafeteria served pizza, chicken sandwiches and hamburgers for the majority of the year.

Out of the 2500 kids i went to school with, maybe 5% were chubby or fat. There are fat kids in germany too. There are fat people in every part of the world.

But of course your inappropriate bashing isnt what this thread is about. Its about the ridiculous policies set by overprotective smothering parents to ensure that kids are imprisoned and kept on surveillance 24/7.

Personally i dont know how this CRAP is allowed. a third-degree FELONY for bringing a plastic butter knife to school? throwing an eraser is supposed to be "throwing a deadly missile" which is also a felony.

The schools think they get to control EVERYTHING that Kids do. ABSOULTELY not. Thats up to the parents, and the parents alone.
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Old 06-05-11, 02:59 PM   #9
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I've gotta admit. I've lost pretty much all faith in the public school system.
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Old 06-05-11, 05:23 PM   #10
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An interesting take.
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Its about the ridiculous policies set by overprotective smothering parents to ensure that kids are imprisoned and kept on surveillance 24/7.
So its the parents fault.....
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The schools think they get to control EVERYTHING that Kids do. ABSOULTELY not. Thats up to the parents, and the parents alone.
If its the parents fault how is it the schools fault? If its u[p to the parents and the parents alone and the parents want zero tolerance at the schools then it cannot be the schools fault for doing what the parents insist on.



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I've lost pretty much all faith in the public school system.
When it comes to matters of discipline and student conduct do you think the private school system has less or more strict rules than the public schools do?
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An interesting take.

So its the parents fault.....

If its the parents fault how is it the schools fault? If its u[p to the parents and the parents alone and the parents want zero tolerance at the schools then it cannot be the schools fault for doing what the parents insist on.




When it comes to matters of discipline and student conduct do you think the private school system has less or more strict rules than the public schools do?
thats the thing. Obviously not every parent is overprotective. So a parent who set out to get these policies enforced has no problem with the school doing it.

The school and the overprotective parents are for the policies. The regular parents who arent ruling their child with an iron fist are the ones who would be, for the most part, opposed to these policies.

It should be left up to the parent for these kinds of things. While the overprotective parents get what THEY want, youll be forcing it down the other parents throats without their say in it.
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I'll vouch for all of your accounts here. I was breathalysed at a football game once. Before I even entered the stadium.

There are cameras everywhere in school - and most of them are hidden. I got into the command center once (was carrying some cleaning supplies for the janitor), and noticed that the visible cameras are placed to almost corral students into areas where the cameras are placed. Yet, they still can't figure out who's punching holes in the wall.

We have random drug dog searches. The officers are armed. They WILL question you if you are seen in the hall during the searches.

There are armed guards and airport style searches at dances.

They have a "holding chamber" where searches can be conducted off camera. Rumors abound about what has happened in there.

I really am outraged. If I went into a full rage I would swear every other word for 3 pages.

Whats worse is the teachers. Once the teachers have tenure, then they quit caring. Period. Only the new teachers are good - and even so - the teachers are undereducated. I actually have to correct my teachers multiple times a day. Hell, look up all the reports of misinformation in text books. I've re written half my history book making corrections. Also, they teach you what, not who, when, how, why, or what if.

It is more horrible than can be written.
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I taught in the K-12 education system for 10 years. I am proud of my work.
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Old 06-06-11, 02:23 AM   #14
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Haha, kids don't have it that bad. When I was in school, if you misbehaved, the teacher beat you with a board in front of the whole class. I received corporal punishment many times, up to age 16 in school. I bet none of these kids has ever had "licks".
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i heard somewhere the whole idea of high school was to keep young people off the streets, to prevent them from causing trouble...

so yeah, same thing

what concerns me though, is the amount of violence, theft, and drugs you find in an average high school

draconian? well almost all my friends have had something stolen from them at school. and the amount of drugs and violence at school is astonishing
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