Downgrade to VII

4saken · 02-07-11, 12:38 PM

I love the long range and the extra eels of the IX but it's too big and lucks the maneuverability of the VII...It also takes ages to get to periscope depth...
I was sunk twice in 9 petrols (100%) with the VII and twice in only 1 petrol with the new u-boat...I am seriously thinking going back to my VII

Lord_magerius · 02-07-11, 01:14 PM

The type VII is the way forward. Handles like a beauty and even though lacking the firepower of the IX you won't notice it when evading destroyers. At least you'll be at a decent depth before the first charge is dropped.

Gerald · 02-07-11, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 4saken

I love the long range and the extra eels of the IX but it's too big and lucks the maneuverability of the VII...It also takes ages to get to periscope depth...
I was sunk twice in 9 petrols (100%) with the VII and twice in only 1 petrol with the new u-boat...I am seriously thinking going back to my VII

Think really carefully when IX boats have a very different force with more eels and deck gun, as you already know, the disadvantage may be that it goes under water so bloody slow, and turn into the small port would be more hard

Gargamel · 02-07-11, 05:04 PM

Each boat has its strengths and weaknesses. When operation Drumbeat comes around, you're going to be wishing you had kept that IX.

Ducimus · 02-07-11, 05:39 PM

A type 9 is not an "upgrade" to a type 7. They are two entirely different class of boats, made for different purposes.

nikbear · 02-07-11, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

A type 9 is not an "upgrade" to a type 7. They are two entirely different class of boats, made for different purposes.

Exactly,when Germany is on the offensive the TypeIX is a class boat,range and loadout are wonderful

Come the decline of the U-boatwaffe its a TypeVII you want to be in,dives quicker,handles better,......We are in to self preservation mode then

Bugger winning the war....you want to survive the war!!!!

Ducimus · 02-07-11, 07:50 PM

No, the type 7's were designed around wolf pack tactics at ranges up to the mid atlantic. This wolf pack doctrine dictated their design in terms of range, manuverability and payload.

Type 9's were originally intended to be an at sea command post for those wolfpacks. It was later gleaned that wolf pack command was better handled at shore, and the type 9 was best used as a long range attack boat in areas not accessible to type 7's. In that role they operated alone much of the time, although some did participate in wolfpacks. ( A key note here is that type 9's had the range to get to distant waters, and the payload to make the trip worth while. )

Doctrine has a large part to play here.

02-07-11, 12:38 PM	#1
4saken Mate Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Korfu, Ionisches Meer Posts: 59 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Downgrade to VII I love the long range and the extra eels of the IX but it's too big and lucks the maneuverability of the VII...It also takes ages to get to periscope depth... I was sunk twice in 9 petrols (100%) with the VII and twice in only 1 petrol with the new u-boat...I am seriously thinking going back to my VII

02-07-11, 01:14 PM	#2
Lord_magerius Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Right by the hydrophone station Posts: 724 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	The type VII is the way forward. Handles like a beauty and even though lacking the firepower of the IX you won't notice it when evading destroyers. At least you'll be at a decent depth before the first charge is dropped. __________________

02-07-11, 05:04 PM	#4
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Each boat has its strengths and weaknesses. When operation Drumbeat comes around, you're going to be wishing you had kept that IX. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

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02-07-11, 05:39 PM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	A type 9 is not an "upgrade" to a type 7. They are two entirely different class of boats, made for different purposes.

02-07-11, 07:50 PM	#7
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	No, the type 7's were designed around wolf pack tactics at ranges up to the mid atlantic. This wolf pack doctrine dictated their design in terms of range, manuverability and payload. Type 9's were originally intended to be an at sea command post for those wolfpacks. It was later gleaned that wolf pack command was better handled at shore, and the type 9 was best used as a long range attack boat in areas not accessible to type 7's. In that role they operated alone much of the time, although some did participate in wolfpacks. ( A key note here is that type 9's had the range to get to distant waters, and the payload to make the trip worth while. ) Doctrine has a large part to play here.