U.S. soldiers punished for not attending Christian concert

Torvald Von Mansee · 08-19-10, 07:37 PM

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2010/8/19/113223/843

Platapus · 08-19-10, 08:11 PM

We had something similar when I was in basic (30 years ago). You had a choice whether to attend church or not. If you choose not to attend, you cleaned latrines. Most of us decided to attend and just think of other stuff.

It was not right, but evidently it has been going on for a while.

Ducimus · 08-19-10, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

We had something similar when I was in basic (30 years ago). You had a choice whether to attend church or not. If you choose not to attend, you cleaned latrines. Most of us decided to attend and just think of other stuff.

It was not right, but evidently it has been going on for a while.

Same here. Only I went to basic 18 years ago. (wow, it's been that long?). Every sunday, you had a choice. It was either go to this non denominational christian service, or get put on some crappy detail and have some TI riding your ass.

frau kaleun · 08-19-10, 08:37 PM

I went to Youtube and looked up the band these guys were supposed to go listen to... after getting through the first 60 seconds or so of a couple of their "hits," I think I'd opt for latrine duty and call it a win.

Moeceefus · 08-19-10, 09:02 PM

Reminds me of that part in Full Metal Jacket. Gotta love Lee Ermey.

ETR3(SS) · 08-19-10, 09:05 PM

When I went to basic 8 years ago we were given the same choice. I went once and didn't go after that. I don't recall being "punished" for my choice back then. That said, I hope this General's career is stopped where it is. But on the other hand it's often said that once you join, your constitution rights go out the window.

Ducimus · 08-19-10, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

it's often said that once you join, your constitution rights go out the window.

Very true. In fact, complaining about just that was a running joke at times. Someone I knew once poked fun at the oath of enlistment by changing the words around to reflect it. Wish I could remember the rewrite, it was pretty funny.

Takeda Shingen · 08-19-10, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

I went to Youtube and looked up the band these guys were supposed to go listen to... after getting through the first 60 seconds or so of a couple of their "hits," I think I'd opt for latrine duty and call it a win.

You're right. Most of that music is simply horrendous, even by popular music's standards.

August · 08-19-10, 11:25 PM

When I took Basic Training they preferred that everyone to be restricted to the barracks and by claiming to need some religion they couldn't stop you from escaping their clutches without getting the Base Chaplain on their butts.

In fact free time during basic training used to be a very rare commodity. Apparently if this anonymous story is indeed true then nowadays it seems that trainees actually get their weekends off.

nikimcbee · 08-19-10, 11:33 PM

I'd go to church. Church=naptime

August · 08-19-10, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I'd go to church. Church=naptime

That's pretty much what I did too.

Pro-tip: non denominationals don't make you stand up, kneel or otherwise disturb your sleep.

'Course maybe it would have been better to stay at the barracks so I could claim to be oppressed like Ducimus and Platapus...

Platapus · 08-20-10, 08:26 AM

Help help, I am being oppressed!

frau kaleun · 08-20-10, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Help help, I am being oppressed!

Bloody peasant.

Weiss Pinguin · 08-20-10, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by August

'Course maybe it would have been better to stay at the barracks so I could claim to be oppressed like Ducimus and Platapus...

Slacker

08-19-10, 07:37 PM	#1
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	U.S. soldiers punished for not attending Christian concert http://www.talk2action.org/story/2010/8/19/113223/843 __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	We had something similar when I was in basic (30 years ago). You had a choice whether to attend church or not. If you choose not to attend, you cleaned latrines. Most of us decided to attend and just think of other stuff. It was not right, but evidently it has been going on for a while. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	When I went to basic 8 years ago we were given the same choice. I went once and didn't go after that. I don't recall being "punished" for my choice back then. That said, I hope this General's career is stopped where it is. But on the other hand it's often said that once you join, your constitution rights go out the window. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	When I took Basic Training they preferred that everyone to be restricted to the barracks and by claiming to need some religion they couldn't stop you from escaping their clutches without getting the Base Chaplain on their butts. In fact free time during basic training used to be a very rare commodity. Apparently if this anonymous story is indeed true then nowadays it seems that trainees actually get their weekends off. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I'd go to church. Church=naptime __________________

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frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I went to Youtube and looked up the band these guys were supposed to go listen to... after getting through the first 60 seconds or so of a couple of their "hits," I think I'd opt for latrine duty and call it a win.

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Moeceefus 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 278 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Reminds me of that part in Full Metal Jacket. Gotta love Lee Ermey.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Help help, I am being oppressed! __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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