Insubordinate army doctor asks for court martial:

08-11-10, 01:14 PM

This guy needs to get his court martial and go to Levenworth.

Quote:

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin is scheduled to be arraigned Friday at Fort Belvoir, VA and in all likelihood will either be sentenced to detention and/or given a dishonorable discharge from the military.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...#ixzz0wK3HeeHB

August · 08-11-10, 02:21 PM

Hope they toss his butt in jail for a long time.

His whole argument is invalid. Even if he were right about Obama and I'm not saying he is, it makes absolutely no difference. He wasn't ordered to Afghanistan by the President. He was ordered to Afghanistan by his immediate Commander.

Platapus · 08-11-10, 06:29 PM

It would be a travesty if this guy gets off. His orders to AF did not come from the President, but came from his headquarters. We can not allow military members to decide whether or not to obey legal orders. Especially we can't allow officers to display cowardice in times of combat.

I want him to have a felony conviction on his record
Forfeit of all pay and benefits (kiss that retirement good bye)
Give him the Big Chicken Dinner (Dishonorable discharges can be complicated and are subject to review.)

I wish there was some way to yank his medical certification but I guess that's not allowed.

While I feel that a prison sentence is called for. Since he is showing cowardice by missing a movement in a combat situation, it would be nice if the military could hold him in prison for the duration of the war on terrorism.

But in any case, this is an crime that the military must make a strong statement about as it threatens the entire framework of the military services.

Ducimus · 08-11-10, 06:46 PM

Crap like this (and other things) makes me wonder what happened to us as a people. 10 years ago, this type of thing was unheard of, and especially not from an officer.

Platapus · 08-11-10, 06:49 PM

I disagree, we have had cowards in the military ever since the Revolutionary War. During the first Gulf War we had people bailing out when they got orders to SA.

These days there is just more coverage and viability. If this guy did not try to conceal his cowardice by trying to make this an "Obama thing", it would not get the coverage it has.

AVGWarhawk · 08-11-10, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I disagree, we have had cowards in the military ever since the Revolutionary War. During the first Gulf War we had people bailing out when they got orders to SA.

These days there is just more coverage and viability. If this guy did not try to conceal his cowardice by trying to make this an "Obama thing", it would not get the coverage it has.

I would have to agree here.

Bubblehead1980 · 08-11-10, 06:56 PM

I'm slightly torn on this.This guy is standing up for what he believes in and can't blame him, taking orders from someone like Obama is blah.Then again, he's in the military and his job is to obey lawful orders of those above him, he doesnt need to be hung out to dry because he spoke up.an admin discharge would be fine.

Ducimus · 08-11-10, 06:59 PM

Well, when I was in, I never heard of such a thing. To me, it's utterly unthinkable. You relinquished your ability to choose the instant you signed the contract. You do what your told (lawfully), and you go where your sent. Period. The only choices this guy really had, was what to put down on his "dream sheet". Now, he is a malfunctioning piece of government property and needs to be put in his place. I'd love it if he had reduction of rank to Private Basic.. and thats just for starters.

08-11-10, 02:21 PM	#2
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hope they toss his butt in jail for a long time. His whole argument is invalid. Even if he were right about Obama and I'm not saying he is, it makes absolutely no difference. He wasn't ordered to Afghanistan by the President. He was ordered to Afghanistan by his immediate Commander. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

08-11-10, 06:29 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It would be a travesty if this guy gets off. His orders to AF did not come from the President, but came from his headquarters. We can not allow military members to decide whether or not to obey legal orders. Especially we can't allow officers to display cowardice in times of combat. I want him to have a felony conviction on his record Forfeit of all pay and benefits (kiss that retirement good bye) Give him the Big Chicken Dinner (Dishonorable discharges can be complicated and are subject to review.) I wish there was some way to yank his medical certification but I guess that's not allowed. While I feel that a prison sentence is called for. Since he is showing cowardice by missing a movement in a combat situation, it would be nice if the military could hold him in prison for the duration of the war on terrorism. But in any case, this is an crime that the military must make a strong statement about as it threatens the entire framework of the military services. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right. Last edited by Platapus; 08-12-10 at 05:41 PM.

08-11-10, 06:49 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I disagree, we have had cowards in the military ever since the Revolutionary War. During the first Gulf War we had people bailing out when they got orders to SA. These days there is just more coverage and viability. If this guy did not try to conceal his cowardice by trying to make this an "Obama thing", it would not get the coverage it has. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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08-11-10, 06:46 PM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Crap like this (and other things) makes me wonder what happened to us as a people. 10 years ago, this type of thing was unheard of, and especially not from an officer.

08-11-10, 06:56 PM	#7
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,100 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	I'm slightly torn on this.This guy is standing up for what he believes in and can't blame him, taking orders from someone like Obama is blah.Then again, he's in the military and his job is to obey lawful orders of those above him, he doesnt need to be hung out to dry because he spoke up.an admin discharge would be fine.

08-11-10, 06:59 PM	#8
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Well, when I was in, I never heard of such a thing. To me, it's utterly unthinkable. You relinquished your ability to choose the instant you signed the contract. You do what your told (lawfully), and you go where your sent. Period. The only choices this guy really had, was what to put down on his "dream sheet". Now, he is a malfunctioning piece of government property and needs to be put in his place. I'd love it if he had reduction of rank to Private Basic.. and thats just for starters.