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Old 02-18-10, 10:35 AM   #1
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8521246.stm

Anybody been following this? I'd imagine Brits have been. Ireland seems angry too, and I'd imagine Germany and France as well. Seems to me international law doesn't mean much to Israel.

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Old 02-18-10, 10:57 AM   #2
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OK I am lost, we have serious ****e going on , countries "possibly" reneging on earlier agreements about identity fraud.
Countries breaking their own laws

But how can we blame the evil USA?
Come on OTH you have missed out on your main topic.
Its like Skybird complaining about Muslim EU Druids on midsummers eve in the middle of december

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Old 02-18-10, 12:02 PM   #3
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Developments if and when they arise are sure to be announced on international media.

I'm personally looking forward to learning the truth about this matter but there is the risk of a cover up if matters should be deemed as potentially damaging to the security and or integrity of a sovereign state.

Until more detail is announced I'm sure conspiracy theories will abound.
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Old 02-18-10, 12:16 PM   #4
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Nothing wrong in targetted killing of terror leaders, but for Mossad standards the execution this time was lousy, if it really was like the media puzzles it together. This seems to be the tenor in Israeli media, too: the complains are against Mossad operation allowed to get caught on camera (but not the assassination, mind you), not against the killing of the terrorist.
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Nothing wrong in targetted killing of terror leaders, but for Mossad standards the execution this time was lousy, if it really was like the media puzzles it together. This seems to be the tenor in Israeli media, too: the complains are against Mossad operation allowed to get caught on camera (but not the assassination, mind you), not against the killing of the terrorist.
So it would be ok for Hamas to kill, say, Netanyahu. Ok I get it now.

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OK I am lost, we have serious ****e going on , countries "possibly" reneging on earlier agreements about identity fraud.
Countries breaking their own laws

But how can we blame the evil USA?
Come on OTH you have missed out on your main topic.
Its like Skybird complaining about Muslim EU Druids on midsummers eve in the middle of december
Why is that? Have you been most impressed by my anger of the US? I don't necessarily hate them the most, I have a lot of hate to go around. Even more for Ireland if you so wish. I haven't really even gotten started on the Catholic mafia that controls your country and your corrupt government/nation.
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Hmm I guess forged Canadian passports are not as popular as they one were.
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Could someone please pass the popcorn?
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Old 02-18-10, 03:09 PM   #8
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Nothing wrong in targetted killing of terror leaders, but for Mossad standards the execution this time was lousy, if it really was like the media puzzles it together. This seems to be the tenor in Israeli media, too: the complains are against Mossad operation allowed to get caught on camera (but not the assassination, mind you), not against the killing of the terrorist.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
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It's nothing new for Israel or MOSSAD, but it's unusual that it gets out like this. Rather a botched op I'd say.
However, the more interesting question is not how they did it but why they did it. I read an interesting claim by some 'Middle Eastern Intelligence Experts' in the Daily Fail today that hinted that MOSSAD was looking to whack any underground organisations which would form a basis for Iranian retaliation against Israel after an Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear installations. The fact that this op has been blasted open will probably put a red flag up in Iran and buy time for the Iranian program because the element of surprise in any attack carried out within the next month or so will have been lost. However, it's a clear indication that a second Opera is on its way. I wonder what the US position on it would be, I recall hearing somewhere before the election that the US was telling Israel not to do anything but I can't imagine the US not fist-pumping if a second Opera is successful but probably in private, whilst publicly condemning the use of force over negotiation, etc, etc, etc (the usual diplo-bull).
Of course, this was from the Daily Fail so it's probably a pretty unsafe guess but it does make a bit of sense and with Iran still marching forward towards nuclear status it's a matter of when, not if, Israel will reach out and whack Iran in the way they whacked Iraq and IIRC Saudi Arabia has already given a subtle nod to Israel for use of their airspace.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6638568.ece

Here's something I just found and might be worth a read:

http://csis.org/files/media/csis/pub..._israelius.pdf
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.


Wishing to kill innocents undiscriminatingly, targetting civilians intentionally, and wanting to wipe out as many of them as possible; poisoning one's own youth and youngest chidlren with hate and bloodthirst and having utmost racism and hate-crime as regular children TV program; hiding behind women and children while firing at the enemy and hoping these human shoeilds get killed so thta oen can score in the picture war: that is no freedom fight, but is cynism, and is terror - no matter how much you try to distort it by relativising it until no evil is left anymore and the victim becomes the perpetrator.

But you are very much en vogue with your revolutionary mindset, I admit. It is so popular in the saloons these days.
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Hmm I guess forged Canadian passports are not as popular as they one were.
then only problem with these passports are that they picked real people's identities, bringing these unsuspicious innocents in danger. Beyond that, it is intel business as usual.
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So it would be ok for Hamas to kill, say, Netanyahu. Ok I get it now.



Why is that? Have you been most impressed by my anger of the US? I don't necessarily hate them the most, I have a lot of hate to go around. Even more for Ireland if you so wish. I haven't really even gotten started on the Catholic mafia that controls your country and your corrupt government/nation.

Why do you bring your HATE to a Gaming Website ?

All I see is a sick little boy that is allowed to play here.
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Wishing to kill innocents undiscriminatingly, targetting civilians intentionally, and wanting to wipe out as many of them as possible; poisoning one's own youth and youngest chidlren with hate and bloodthirst and having utmost racism and hate-crime as regular children TV program; hiding behind women and children while firing at the enemy and hoping these human shoeilds get killed so thta oen can score in the picture war: that is no freedom fight, but is cynism, and is terror - no matter how much you try to distort it by relativising it until no evil is left anymore and the victim becomes the perpetrator.

But you are very much en vogue with your revolutionary mindset, I admit. It is so popular in the saloons these days.
Actually it's very possible that Israel had a hand in the foundation and ascent of Hamas. Fatah had grown very strong and a counterweight was needed, and along came Hamas. But Israel couldn't make Hamas into a 'Israel-friendlier' version of Fatah, actually it kinda became the opposite.

As far as shooting at women and children etc., Israel leads the body count in that 'sport' by a mile so cut the sanctimonious BS.
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Why do you bring your HATE to a Gaming Website ?

All I see is a sick little boy that is allowed to play here.
Big words (and I don't just mean font) coming from "Mr Brig".
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