Wow what an awsome tie in there Michelle ! (politics sorta)

[SteamWake]

A recent study put the health care cost of obesity-related diseases at $147 billion a year,” Mrs. Obama said. “This epidemic also impacts the nation’s security, as obesity is now one of the most common disqualifiers for military service."

Thats just brilliant !


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/61157

[AVGWarhawk]

She is taking her que from Bush! Sweet!

[Skybird]

The Blackhawk helicopter.

Called a transport today. Give it a tandem cockpit, and it gets called a gunship tomorrow!

[Platapus]

First Ladies have to have some program to work on. Hers is obesity. No better nor worse than past First Ladies'.

I wish her good luck with it. Obesity is a problem

(lookin at my gut) It sure is.

[krashkart]

More power to her. I can't really see the entire US population becoming so overweight that there won't be anyone left in good enough health to serve the country, but, okeedokee then.


(looks at own gut)

I'm out of beer.

[conus00]

Obesity is NOT a disease.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by conus00

Obesity is NOT a disease.

It depends. There can be genetical dispositions causing it. Then it should be understood as a disease. And when bad eating habits have caused certain physiological anomalies and organic dysfunctions, then it also can be called a disease. and when it causes additional disease symptoms of secondary degree, then it surely should be understood as a disease, too.

Saying in general obesity is no disease is like saying diabetes is no disease, or high blood pressure.

[conus00]

Originally Posted by Skybird

It depends. There can be genetical dispositions causing it. Then it should be understood as a disease. And when bad eating habits have caused certain physiological anomalies and organic dysfunctions, then it also can be called a disease. and when it causes additional disease symptoms of secondary degree, then it surely should be understood as a disease, too.

Saying in general obesity is no disease is like saying diabetes is no disease, or high blood pressure.

Let me rephrase: In most cases obesity is NOT a disease.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Skybird

It depends. There can be genetical dispositions causing it. Then it should be understood as a disease. And when bad eating habits have caused certain physiological anomalies and organic dysfunctions, then it also can be called a disease. and when it causes additional disease symptoms of secondary degree, then it surely should be understood as a disease, too.

Saying in general obesity is no disease is like saying diabetes is no disease, or high blood pressure.

It would be a genetic disorder I believe. It is something you do not catch or develop. Speaking of which, was it not the German army pulled out on the carpet for obesity?

[conus00]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It would be a genetic disorder I believe. It is something you do not catch or develop. Speaking of which, was it not the German army pulled out on the carpet for obesity?

I minority cases it might be genetic disorder and NO you can't "catch it" that much a agree with. On the other hand you can definitely "develop it". IMO majority of obesity in the U.S. consist of bad eating habits and total lack of any exercise. Therefore I believe that it is not a disease per se but bad lifestyle.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by conus00

I minority cases it might be genetic disorder and NO you can't "catch it" that much a agree with. On the other hand you can definitely "develop it". IMO majority of obesity in the U.S. consist of bad eating habits and total lack of any exercise. Therefore I believe that it is not a disease per se but bad lifestyle.

Developing it then should be catogorized as probably an emotional disorder perhaps? Some people smoke, drink or eat when there is a stressful situation. I agree, a lot has to do with lifestyle.

[Skybird]

Bad food, too much of what is too bad. sugar, salt, bad fats. All that makes obesity a disease. And it kills, by attacking inner organs, cardiovascular system, heart.

Genetic disposition is nnot that minor as you think, Conus. however, like diabetes it is a disease that you develope over time. Bad lifestyle favours it. You do not catch it like a flu, that is right, but many diseases you do not catch that way. Cancer for example. But whether you develope it or have a genetic disposition or both, does not really matter in the understanding of it: it is damaging to your health, and you better understand it as a disease indeed.

I can't really see the entire US population becoming so overweight that there won't be anyone left in good enough health to serve the country

Didn't the Brits have to lower their health requirements for enlistment as too many applicants were simply being rejected as unfit for military service.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

When I was living in Belgium, I very rarely saw a fat person compared to back home in Maryland. Why? Well, part of it is a superior public transport system. Also, Belgium is FLAT and has bike lanes next to all major surface roads w/barriers to keep drivers from flattening you.

The strange thing is I went to Jacksonville for a while, and noticed that they also had bike/walking trails next to the major roads (at least where I was), and it was flat, yet there were a LOT more fat people than back home in MD!!! And the weather is better than in Belgium/Maryland, too!!!

[JackAubrey]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

The strange thing is I went to Jacksonville for a while, and noticed that they also had bike/walking trails next to the major roads (at least where I was), and it was flat, yet there were a LOT more fat people than back home in MD!!! And the weather is better than in Belgium/Maryland, too!!!

Maybe it's a question of mindset?