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Well, I must confess I don't know what to say. It is appalling.
Demographic double standards in the U.S. are HUUUUUUUUGE, and it stems pretty much entirely from political correctness. If I may "poison the well," the only Americans likely to say it isn't so are liberals from privileged backgrounds who haven't lived in the real world (and even than, there's plenty of examples in academia (which they inhabit in droves) of this bull****, so they're probably being willfully ignorant).
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Don'T have it at hand, but I had a study - a serious one - showing in numbers that regarding "violance at home" numerically woman are more prominent than men, the statistics they had showed for several European countries that women cause more incidents of indirect and direct aggression and violence at home, than their husbands/partners.
the cliché that it is most often the man beating the woman, is simply that: a cliché. And a longer while ago I also had read a research showing that there are far more cases of rape "women against man", than previously was thought. I think that the relations and definitions of role identities of men and women in modern societies are seriously and pathologically distorted. But they are politically correct. Also, modern life, by media, print media and books, movies, music, advertising, social role modelling, is hilariously "sexualised", is loaded with and dripping with an excessive, pathologic, narcissistic focus on sex, defining relations between boys and girls, men and women, too dominantly by sex, and sex alone. I think this affects a whole range of fields, and not for the better, from education, over family integrity, legal issues after divorces, and even the Islamisation - the latter was brought to my awareness by a Turkish woman, a social scientist living in Germany, who said that the willingness to leave Islam it'S way in the West and not to oppose it, is a result both of a weakened - i would even say: critically injured - self-definition of masculinity in the wake of the women's movement, and as a result the acceptance of letting the pendulum now somewhat swing to the extreme opposite again, that way somewhat compensating or paying back for what the excessive pendulum swing towards the female side in the past decades has caused. I know, that sounds like a summary that is a bit rough and blocky, but she has had very good arguments. It's just that I do not recall all of it precisely and completely anymore, I just somewhat flew over it. If only I knew where it had it. It's amazing - or better: it is not ![]() I also remember a seminary from university times, where one day the talk was of the infamous erotic novel "Histoire d'O'". That was quite some time ago, and I think even before or around the time the author lifted her pseudonym and made herself known. Quite some students there did not know that the novel, known for it'S both verbally artistic and explicit descritpion of sadism, masochism and submission, was not a man, but a woman - even more so: a very skilled literature critic that wrote the novel as kind of an indirect love letter to her mentor or critic-colleague whom she had fallen in love with. This revelation was quite disturbing for some people, especially male students. It made mockery of the attitude you often had seen until then: to let down the story of O as just some sick macho's pervert sex-fantasies. Lesson of the stories? If people think that women are all gentle and tender in mind and cannot be cruel, you better think twice. Their minds can be as cruel, if not more so, than that of men, so can be their aggressiveness. It's just that most of the time female aggression choses other paths to manifestate, than men's. Like both genders also prefer different ways to kill themselves if they want to commit suicide. Males want a final last display of explosive destruction and agression, they often prefer firearms, for example, or crash into a train. Women often prefer drugs and poison both for suicide and murder.
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Only Skybird could bring "Islamisation" into a topic about a crazy woman and a nutty judge
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The logic used by skybird is often stretchy at best; yet, somehow i cant help but admire his fanatical dedication for what he believes in. even tho i must occasionally question his mental sanity.
Atleast he thinks and speaks his mind
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What part exactly is it that you think is not "sane" in my reply? I readily admitted that my memory of that study is not complete. I really just recall the basics. On the SM novel I commented since it matched the context, not necessarily because I think it depicts healthy relations between men and women. the part on Islam I added since it is a dominant, very important and also omnipresent issue. It matched my general design of my reply, which is about some implications of gender roles and how they have changed and may be misperceived, especially the term that is spelled "freedom" (liberation of women, and women rights).
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If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 02-03-10 at 05:13 PM. |
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