When will you buy the game? And if? And why/why not?

Carotio · 01-27-10, 01:02 PM

Given that SH5 is a completely new game, which satisfies some, but dissapoint others, then let's get some numbers on the table. I allready made a similar poll recently, but new facts (or rumours) are on the table, so the poll is hereby reset, so you can vote again in this new poll. The old poll can be found here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160469
It will be fun to compare...

Before you vote: it's a multi choice poll. For some choices, they can be interpreted as a reason for others it's a choice. F.i. you can vote 1+3 or 1+2 or 1+2+3 for the positive votes. For the negative answers, you have two choices 4 or 5. For those with mixed feelings, you have 6 + 7/8/9/10 OR just 7/8/9/10. This is a suggestion for you how to vote. But you may do as you see fit.

Thank you.

1) I'll buy it asap no matter what.

2) I'll buy it, after having read the first user comments.

3) I'll buy it, just to support subsim games.

***

4) I'll not buy it, the uboat side ain't my favorite.

5) If released as planned, I'll never buy it no matter what.

***

6) If released as planned, I'll buy it, once the price is reduced.

7) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types.

8) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types AND/OR if they cancel the decision about the DRM OR choose a more player friendly solution.

9) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types AND the rest of the war.

10) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types AND the rest of the war AND if they cancel the decision about the DRM OR choose a more player friendly solution.

codmander · 01-27-10, 01:21 PM

gotta give credit were its due pretty detailed u boat

given some time and modifacation could be pretty cool

but wait n see seems to be the norm

sad part is some cappys are gonna buy it for top $$ guinea pigs of sort hope they get there moneys worth

Carotio · 01-27-10, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Missing one obvious option: will buy it as it is when/if DRM is removed.

Can't please all. 10 options is max. Sorry.

I think option 8 is the closest option then, though you don't mind about the missing types.

Letum · 01-27-10, 01:31 PM

I think you missed the most important poll option.

Carotio · 01-27-10, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

I think you missed the most important poll option.

Okay, I have edited option 8, so it says AND/OR.
That should do it. As I said, only 10 options.

HundertzehnGustav · 01-27-10, 01:58 PM

i want SHIII 2.0, so...

TH0R · 01-27-10, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Missing one obvious option: will buy it as it is when/if DRM is removed.

Definitely missing.

Carotio · 01-27-10, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH0R

Definitely missing.

Read post 1, 4 & 6 again. Thanks.

TH0R · 01-27-10, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carotio

Read post 1, 4 & 6 again. Thanks.

I don't mind the missing boats. Just don't like DRM. So no. 8 is not my closest voting option.

frau kaleun · 01-27-10, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH0R

I don't mind the missing boats. Just don't like DRM. So no. 8 is not my closest voting option.

Same here. Nothing but VIIs? Fine by me. Ends after May 1943? Not a dealbreaker.

The DRM as described thus far? I'll pass.

Chances are I would've needed to upgrade a few things on my end for it to run as well as I'd want it to. Wouldn't have done that for a while, but might still have bought the game now just out of curiosity and anticipation.

Now I'll wait and see if there comes a time when the DRM is no longer an issue - and if so, by then the game will probably be cheaper and I'll be more willing to upgrade HW to play it with all the bangs and whistles enabled.

Adriatico · 01-27-10, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Missing one obvious option: will buy it as it is when/if DRM is removed.

+ 1 Carotio, You missed the main point My DRM problem - has nothing to do with Type IX... or 44/45

Carotio · 01-28-10, 03:28 AM

OKAY, OKAY, OKAY

Will this do then? Before setting up a new poll, which pleases everybody...
And please remember the forum only allows 10 options!!!!!!!
This way you can tick the box nr. 9 only f.i. if you don't care about the missing features.

1) I'll buy it asap no matter what.

2) After having read the first user comments.

3) To support subsim games.

***

4) I'll not buy it, the uboat side ain't my favorite.

5) If released as planned, I'll never buy it no matter what.

***

6) If released as planned, I'll buy it, once the price is reduced.

7) Only with the missing uboat types.

8) Only with the missing years.

9) Only without DRM.

10) If copy-protected, then only with a more player friendly solution.

FIREWALL · 01-28-10, 03:51 AM

I'd like to hear what the Ubi Devs have to say about all of this.

They've been a little scarce around here lately.

I hope they haven't been scared off.

McBeck · 01-28-10, 04:09 AM

Ill decide upon the Subsim review - Neal always seems to be in sync with my criteria...

SeaWolf U-57 · 01-28-10, 05:56 AM

So let me get this right.
(1) You will have to be connected to the internet to play SH5
(2) You will not be able to play any saved games unless you are on-line
(3) The only version of sub available is the type 7 (all classes)
(4) The war only go's as far as 1943
(5) The ships you are attacking will have damage bars showing above them
(6) You will be able to walk through the VIIC and interact with the crew
(7) The graphics of the game are improved over SH3

My Personal responses

(1) This screws anyone who has a slow connection or uses Dial-up.
(2) Kiss the last two hours of game play good bye the server has shut down for one reason or another.
(3) Disappointing as I like the IXC subs as well because they are more useful on convoy attacks having two rear tubes.
(4) So the players of SH5 are not expected to last any further then say mid 1942 then.
(5) Great so when you are attacking a target you will be able to imagine you are standing in a seaside arcade store playing the game on an arcade machine. will this mean you will have unlimited fast loading torpedoes to attack multiple targets at the same time if not then this feature is a waste of time.
(6) To make this worth anything it must randomize the responses of the crew and also react to orders given by the player or else it will become boring to say the least.
(7) From what I have seen this is true but if the rest is correct also this will also be a waste of time as most Sims players will not be seeing it as they will not buy the game.

Silent Hunter 1&2 I never played so no score Unknown
Silent Hunter 3 (un-Modded) 8/10
Silent Hunter 3 (fully Modded and with LSH3) 9/10
Silent Hunter 4 (un-Modded) 4/10
Silent Hunter 4 (patch to 1.4) 6/10
Silent Hunter 4 (Fully Modded) Unknown I got rid of it
Silent Hunter 5 Not promising at this time for sure
Predicted score 4/10 (unless changes are made)

So at this time SH5 is not worth buying unless you like arcade style games.

I regretted buying SH4 and I will not waste money on this version as it stands
Long live SH3 I say.

View Poll Results: When will you buy the game? And if? And why/why not?
I'll buy it asap no matter what.	15	11.19%
I'll buy it, after having read the first user comments.	17	12.69%
I'll buy it, just to support subsim games.	7	5.22%
I'll not buy it, the uboat side ain't my favorite.	3	2.24%
If released as planned, I'll never buy it no matter what.	17	12.69%
If released as planned, I'll buy it, once the price is reduced.	10	7.46%
Only if they delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types.	3	2.24%
Only if they delay the release, with missing uboat types AND without DRM OR better solution.	38	28.36%
Only if they delay the release, in order to add types 2/9 AND late-war.	2	1.49%
Only with types 2/9 AND late-war AND without DRM OR better solution.	45	33.58%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 134. You may not vote on this poll

01-27-10, 01:02 PM	#1
Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	When will you buy the game? And if? And why/why not? Given that SH5 is a completely new game, which satisfies some, but dissapoint others, then let's get some numbers on the table. I allready made a similar poll recently, but new facts (or rumours) are on the table, so the poll is hereby reset, so you can vote again in this new poll. The old poll can be found here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160469 It will be fun to compare... Before you vote: it's a multi choice poll. For some choices, they can be interpreted as a reason for others it's a choice. F.i. you can vote 1+3 or 1+2 or 1+2+3 for the positive votes. For the negative answers, you have two choices 4 or 5. For those with mixed feelings, you have 6 + 7/8/9/10 OR just 7/8/9/10. This is a suggestion for you how to vote. But you may do as you see fit. Thank you. 1) I'll buy it asap no matter what. 2) I'll buy it, after having read the first user comments. 3) I'll buy it, just to support subsim games. * 4) I'll not buy it, the uboat side ain't my favorite. 5) If released as planned, I'll never buy it no matter what. * 6) If released as planned, I'll buy it, once the price is reduced. 7) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types. 8) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types AND/OR if they cancel the decision about the DRM OR choose a more player friendly solution. 9) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types AND the rest of the war. 10) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types AND the rest of the war AND if they cancel the decision about the DRM OR choose a more player friendly solution. __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano Last edited by Carotio; 01-27-10 at 01:34 PM.

01-27-10, 01:31 PM	#4
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I think you missed the most important poll option. __________________

01-27-10, 01:58 PM	#6
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	i want SHIII 2.0, so... __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-28-10, 03:28 AM	#12
Carotio Mr. Bad Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aabenraa, Denmark Posts: 1,488 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	OKAY, OKAY, OKAY Will this do then? Before setting up a new poll, which pleases everybody... And please remember the forum only allows 10 options!!!!!!! This way you can tick the box nr. 9 only f.i. if you don't care about the missing features. 1) I'll buy it asap no matter what. 2) After having read the first user comments. 3) To support subsim games. * 4) I'll not buy it, the uboat side ain't my favorite. 5) If released as planned, I'll never buy it no matter what. * 6) If released as planned, I'll buy it, once the price is reduced. 7) Only with the missing uboat types. 8) Only with the missing years. 9) Only without DRM. 10) If copy-protected, then only with a more player friendly solution. __________________ Download my mods from SHMF Follow my photography here taler dansk, speak English, spreche Deutsch, parle français, forstår svenska/norsk, comprendo castellano

01-27-10, 01:21 PM	#2
codmander Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: cape cod mass. Posts: 678 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	gotta give credit were its due pretty detailed u boat given some time and modifacation could be pretty cool but wait n see seems to be the norm sad part is some cappys are gonna buy it for top $$ guinea pigs of sort hope they get there moneys worth

01-28-10, 03:51 AM	#13
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I'd like to hear what the Ubi Devs have to say about all of this. They've been a little scarce around here lately. I hope they haven't been scared off. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

01-28-10, 04:09 AM	#14
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Ill decide upon the Subsim review - Neal always seems to be in sync with my criteria... __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

01-28-10, 05:56 AM	#15
SeaWolf U-57 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,231 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	So let me get this right. (1) You will have to be connected to the internet to play SH5 (2) You will not be able to play any saved games unless you are on-line (3) The only version of sub available is the type 7 (all classes) (4) The war only go's as far as 1943 (5) The ships you are attacking will have damage bars showing above them (6) You will be able to walk through the VIIC and interact with the crew (7) The graphics of the game are improved over SH3 My Personal responses (1) This screws anyone who has a slow connection or uses Dial-up. (2) Kiss the last two hours of game play good bye the server has shut down for one reason or another. (3) Disappointing as I like the IXC subs as well because they are more useful on convoy attacks having two rear tubes. (4) So the players of SH5 are not expected to last any further then say mid 1942 then. (5) Great so when you are attacking a target you will be able to imagine you are standing in a seaside arcade store playing the game on an arcade machine. will this mean you will have unlimited fast loading torpedoes to attack multiple targets at the same time if not then this feature is a waste of time. (6) To make this worth anything it must randomize the responses of the crew and also react to orders given by the player or else it will become boring to say the least. (7) From what I have seen this is true but if the rest is correct also this will also be a waste of time as most Sims players will not be seeing it as they will not buy the game. Silent Hunter 1&2 I never played so no score Unknown Silent Hunter 3 (un-Modded) 8/10 Silent Hunter 3 (fully Modded and with LSH3) 9/10 Silent Hunter 4 (un-Modded) 4/10 Silent Hunter 4 (patch to 1.4) 6/10 Silent Hunter 4 (Fully Modded) Unknown I got rid of it Silent Hunter 5 Not promising at this time for sure Predicted score 4/10 (unless changes are made) So at this time SH5 is not worth buying unless you like arcade style games. I regretted buying SH4 and I will not waste money on this version as it stands Long live SH3 I say.

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