Was It This Bad?

[sergei]

I haven't been a forum member long enough to know.

Were there forums this aggressive just before SH3 or Sh4 came out?

[GoldenRivet]

to some extent, yes

but the aggression is typically channeled at Ubi, not one another.

[Letum]

No where near!
There where some threads about starforce and a few about the bugs
after it came out, but nothing compared to this. It was generally very
positive.

Things got a little grim after SH4 was released due to the bugs, but
again, this is something else.

Ubisoft have really fooked up this time.

[FIREWALL]

It's gotten the worst after the DRM bomb was dropped.

look at it this way, if you werent here for the others at least your here now to say you were there when we set a new record for the most pitchforks and torches mob we ever had

[stabiz]

I wasnt here for the launch of SH3, but it was not so bad when SH4 launched. The bugs and strange performance issues got some press, but people were mostly positive.

DRM-Gate is by far the most lively thing I have seen outside the General Topics forum.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by sergei

I haven't been a forum member long enough to know.

Were there forums this aggressive just before SH3 or Sh4 came out?

Go have a look, guvnor.

This is one month before SH3 was released.

Looks pretty supportive, but then again, Ubisoft was much more open then and their design strategy was more closely aligned with what players expected and wanted. And, players knew what they were getting. This time, SH5 has been behind closed doors until about 2 weeks ago.

Of course, you can see here the same complaining about copy protection we have now. And somehow... we survived.

[FIREWALL]

Consumers need to remember AGAIN that they dictate the terms on a purchase.

Not the seller. Not if they want to make a sale.

GM is learning that. So is Chrysler and now Toyota.

It's about time a Game co figures that out if they want to stay alive.

I remember the days when we used to sit around the camp fire, playing GingGangGoolie on the Guitar whilst Uncle Neal toasted marsh-mellows in the fire...not any more though, not since the console kids moved in...yeah, that's when the neighbourhood really went to pot.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

see here the same complaining about copy protection we have now. And somehow... we survived.

[GREY WOLF 3]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

It's gotten the worst after the DRM bomb was dropped.

It use to be called a hedgehog

[ichso]

I think many people should be a bit more relaxed about this whole thing.
If the whole DRM issue really proves to be this annoying as everybody is afraid of, then just don't buy the game. Its not like these boards would seize to exist or that there aren't any other very good SH titles to be played.
And I don't mean it in this usual 'like it or shut up' kind of way.

The thing is this, I doubt that UBI will ditch DRM just because the same 30 people are stating their opinion here over and over again.
Maybe if there was a larger petition of some kind, that could perhaps get them to rethink and save them some of their customers that would otherwise turn away, dissapointed.

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Consumers need to remember AGAIN that they dictate the terms on a purchase.

Not the seller. Not if they want to make a sale.

GM is learning that. So is Chrysler and now Toyota.

It's about time a Game co figures that out if they want to stay alive.

This is only true where there is competition. Last time I looked nobody else is producing graphic intensive and moddable submarine games.

Monopoly's essentially own the market and the consumer can like it or lump it.

I intend to lump it...

[Letum]

Lumping it is the competition.

[Bubblehead1980]

I was not around for release of SH 3 or 4, I imagine the only real controversy was the switch from U boats to US fleetboats, for the U boats guys anyway.

DRM is the big issue, just wrong on so many levels.