F-22 More Revolutionary than I thought! Apparently it has no Avionics at all!

SUBMAN1 · 06-30-09, 08:50 AM

The aircraft, being one giant sensor, needs nothing. This is like Star Trek or something! There are no boxes to remove from this aircraft. No nothing. Need a UHF or VHF radio? Write a software app and presto! You have one! Need a Direct TV connection so you can catch up on your latest episode of Battlestar Galactica while in route to your next target? Write a software app and Presto! You have one! I wonder if it can bypass the encryption mechanism?

Read the interview with Metz (Chief Lockheed test pilot):

http://www.ausairpower.net/API-Metz-Interview.html

That is one very interesting article.

-S

ETR3(SS) · 06-30-09, 09:01 AM

Is this an F-22 or an I-Phone?

Kazuaki Shimazaki II · 06-30-09, 09:15 AM

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The pilot does not care nor does he need to know how the avionics conclude that there is a MiG-29 at 330� at 38.2 miles doing 0.85 Mach number at 30,000 feet. The MiG is real. It is there and he needs to do something about it.

Honestly, statements like this worry me. I sure would like to know, time allowing, how the computer came to this conclusion! After all, it'll be ME that will be explaining things if I hit an airliner or something, not the computer.

Dowly · 06-30-09, 10:51 AM

Want to bring down a F22? Write a software app and Presto!

SteamWake · 06-30-09, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Want to bring down a F22? Write a software app and Presto!

LOL just what I was thinking.

Arent these going to fall under the budget axe anyhow?

Max2147 · 06-30-09, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

LOL just what I was thinking.

Arent these going to fall under the budget axe anyhow?

Gates said we're not going to get any more of them, although we're obviously keeping the ones we have.

Some folks in Congress are trying to get some more built as pork barrel spending for their districts.

XabbaRus · 06-30-09, 12:21 PM

Subman you do realiese that Carlo Kopp and whatever he writes is much derided in the aviation analyst world. You should go to defense net and see what some aussies who work in defence think of him.

Kopp is an uber fanboy of the F-22 and that article was written in 1998.

I'm not saying the F-22 isn't the best fighter on the planet at this point in time, however drawing conclusions from a mobile phone salesman isn't what I'd do.

OK teh guys isn't a mobile phones salesman and has a PhD in telecommunicatiosn which from what I can gather he does very well at. Analysing aviation and military at that he is revieled and ridiculed.

Wolfehunter · 06-30-09, 12:48 PM

I was going to say all it will take is front line hackers to crack the software and install a virus to make the plane do something stupid... like crash or something...

SteamWake · 06-30-09, 12:54 PM

I also wonder if these marvelous autonomis systems are hardened against an EMP

Oberon · 06-30-09, 02:40 PM

It'll never beat the P-51, that can shoot down anything

Task Force · 06-30-09, 02:47 PM

hey dont say that... Ill have to bring out my 109...:rotfl:

XabbaRus · 06-30-09, 02:51 PM

No the P.11 is the best fighter...

Task Force · 06-30-09, 02:53 PM

Yea, I heard they can knok a yak out of the ski if rammed.:rotfl:
(actualy happend in the Lolwaffles.)

No the storch is the bets plane of the war...

XabbaRus · 06-30-09, 03:49 PM

No the Panzerknacker is the best...

Raptor1 · 06-30-09, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

No the Panzerknacker is the best...

Seconded!

06-30-09, 08:50 AM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	F-22 More Revolutionary than I thought! Apparently it has no Avionics at all! The aircraft, being one giant sensor, needs nothing. This is like Star Trek or something! There are no boxes to remove from this aircraft. No nothing. Need a UHF or VHF radio? Write a software app and presto! You have one! Need a Direct TV connection so you can catch up on your latest episode of Battlestar Galactica while in route to your next target? Write a software app and Presto! You have one! I wonder if it can bypass the encryption mechanism? Read the interview with Metz (Chief Lockheed test pilot): http://www.ausairpower.net/API-Metz-Interview.html That is one very interesting article. -S __________________

06-30-09, 09:01 AM	#2
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Is this an F-22 or an I-Phone? __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

06-30-09, 12:21 PM	#7
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Subman you do realiese that Carlo Kopp and whatever he writes is much derided in the aviation analyst world. You should go to defense net and see what some aussies who work in defence think of him. Kopp is an uber fanboy of the F-22 and that article was written in 1998. I'm not saying the F-22 isn't the best fighter on the planet at this point in time, however drawing conclusions from a mobile phone salesman isn't what I'd do. OK teh guys isn't a mobile phones salesman and has a PhD in telecommunicatiosn which from what I can gather he does very well at. Analysing aviation and military at that he is revieled and ridiculed. __________________ Last edited by XabbaRus; 06-30-09 at 12:48 PM.

06-30-09, 12:48 PM	#8
Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	I was going to say all it will take is front line hackers to crack the software and install a virus to make the plane do something stupid... like crash or something... __________________

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SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I also wonder if these marvelous autonomis systems are hardened against an EMP __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Want to bring down a F22? Write a software app and Presto!

06-30-09, 02:40 PM	#10
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It'll never beat the P-51, that can shoot down anything

06-30-09, 02:47 PM	#11
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	hey dont say that... Ill have to bring out my 109...:rotfl: __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

06-30-09, 02:51 PM	#12
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No the P.11 is the best fighter... __________________

06-30-09, 02:53 PM	#13
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Yea, I heard they can knok a yak out of the ski if rammed.:rotfl: (actualy happend in the Lolwaffles.) No the storch is the bets plane of the war... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

06-30-09, 03:49 PM	#14
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No the Panzerknacker is the best... __________________

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