Night time attacks in GWX3

ddiplock · 06-19-09, 06:04 PM

So i've had my first successful kill as U35. One 10,300 ton British Large Merchant sent straight down. Makes me happy.

But, i've noticed in GWX3 that everything at night seems a hell of alot darker. Its nigh on impossible for me to see anything at night. I don't recall it being this hard to see at night before, but would I be right in assuming this is a feature of GWX3???

And finally, when I sunk that large merchie, all the torps hit the same spot. Do I have to aim the scope, while unlocked at different points to make it a "point and shoot" device after inputting target data, or do you set a spread angle to get hits along the hull of a target??

Cheers chaps!!

sharkbit · 06-19-09, 06:11 PM

Unlock your scope/UZO and point the crosshairs where you want your eels to hit once all your targeting info is set.
Make sure the TDC is turned on though.

I did that once and the eels when in some awfully funny directions than where I intended.

I've read that if your torpedoes hit the exact same spot, there is really no additional damage and you're just wasting torpedoes.

ddiplock · 06-19-09, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkbit

Unlock your scope/UZO and point the crosshairs where you want your eels to hit once all your targeting info is set.
Make sure the TDC is turned on though.

I did that once and the eels when in some awfully funny directions than where I intended.

I've read that if your torpedoes hit the exact same spot, there is really no additional damage and you're just wasting torpedoes.

Yeha I heard that about the torpedos too.....yet the ship exploded the instant the 4th torpedo hit....must be some damage being done surely

Letum · 06-19-09, 06:22 PM

The nights depend a lot on cloud cover.
They can get too dark to attack if it's cloudy and there is no moon.
U-boats may be creatures of the night, but the crews didn't have any special
ability to see in the dark.

If it is cloudy then plan attacks at late dusk or early dawn, just before the
light goes.

KeptinCranky · 06-20-09, 04:15 AM

As for torps hitting the same spot, yes the 2nd and so on do some additional damage, so much so that your fourth eel caused enough for the section to be destroyed and the ship to go kerplooie...

Generally it's wise to use two eels (but not four, that's overkill) for any merchant over 4000 tons or so, and to try to spread you hits a little.

I usually aim one at the smokestack (to knock out the engine if it doesn't sink right away) and one at the forward mast (this usually hits the forward hold, which then floods, sinking the ship)

Every ship is different though, and you'll have to find out what works best for you, magnetic or impact, one or two eels, and where to aim them.

One tip, some of the shallow-draught ships (I'm looking at you small tanker!

) have a very rounded hull which makes it easy for your impact pistol eel to bounce off and misfire, these should probably be attacked with magnetic pistols....

Jimbuna · 06-20-09, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ddiplock

But, i've noticed in GWX3 that everything at night seems a hell of alot darker. Its nigh on impossible for me to see anything at night. I don't recall it being this hard to see at night before, but would I be right in assuming this is a feature of GWX3???

This is an intentional feature, brought about by the inclusion of OLC environmental mod.

Much more realistic in our opinion.

ddiplock · 06-20-09, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

This is an intentional feature, brought about by the inclusion of OLC environmental mod.

Much more realistic in our opinion.

Oh yeah it is more realistic. It does make things more interesting. I can't even see my watch crew when i'm standing up on the conning tower

Which means it will be nearly impossible to see enemy ships.

Is it possible to sink ships without identifying their type?? If you are manually inputting all the data calcs, speed, range, AOB and such, does it matter weather you identify a ship as a large merchie or small tanker??? Night time attacks will be harder now simply on the grounds its a bugger to see ought :rotfl:

papa_smurf · 06-20-09, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

This is an intentional feature, brought about by the inclusion of OLC environmental mod.

Much more realistic in our opinion.

I quite agree, though it makes identifying a ships nationality alot harder

Pisces · 06-20-09, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ddiplock

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Is it possible to sink ships without identifying their type?? If you are manually inputting all the data calcs, speed, range, AOB and such, does it matter weather you identify a ship as a large merchie or small tanker??? ...

Theoretically, no it doesn't matter/yes it's possible. The torpedo doesn't care what it runs into. If you have ways to figure out propper range, and speed without knowing ID then there is nothing stopping you. AOB is not dependant on ID. But it would need to be with methods not using the notepad since it needs ID to get the mastheight out of the book. You also need to take a guess on how deep his keel is if you fire magnetics, as without ID the recognition book is no help in that either. But you should perform an ID of the flag anyway to make sure it is not a neutral. No shortcuts here.

ddiplock · 06-20-09, 12:20 PM

I can see this whole new dark atmosphere at night will be very frustrating to say the least. I just spent the whole night shadowing a convoy but not actually attacking as you can't attack what you cannot see.

Only then to lose contact with the convoy before dawn and have them slip through my fingers.....had the atmosphere not been so dark, i'd have pressed in for a night attack

06-19-09, 06:04 PM	#1
ddiplock Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 552 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Night time attacks in GWX3 So i've had my first successful kill as U35. One 10,300 ton British Large Merchant sent straight down. Makes me happy. But, i've noticed in GWX3 that everything at night seems a hell of alot darker. Its nigh on impossible for me to see anything at night. I don't recall it being this hard to see at night before, but would I be right in assuming this is a feature of GWX3??? And finally, when I sunk that large merchie, all the torps hit the same spot. Do I have to aim the scope, while unlocked at different points to make it a "point and shoot" device after inputting target data, or do you set a spread angle to get hits along the hull of a target?? Cheers chaps!!

06-19-09, 06:11 PM	#2
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Unlock your scope/UZO and point the crosshairs where you want your eels to hit once all your targeting info is set. Make sure the TDC is turned on though. I did that once and the eels when in some awfully funny directions than where I intended. I've read that if your torpedoes hit the exact same spot, there is really no additional damage and you're just wasting torpedoes. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

06-19-09, 06:22 PM	#4
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The nights depend a lot on cloud cover. They can get too dark to attack if it's cloudy and there is no moon. U-boats may be creatures of the night, but the crews didn't have any special ability to see in the dark. If it is cloudy then plan attacks at late dusk or early dawn, just before the light goes. __________________

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06-20-09, 04:15 AM	#5
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	As for torps hitting the same spot, yes the 2nd and so on do some additional damage, so much so that your fourth eel caused enough for the section to be destroyed and the ship to go kerplooie... Generally it's wise to use two eels (but not four, that's overkill) for any merchant over 4000 tons or so, and to try to spread you hits a little. I usually aim one at the smokestack (to knock out the engine if it doesn't sink right away) and one at the forward mast (this usually hits the forward hold, which then floods, sinking the ship) Every ship is different though, and you'll have to find out what works best for you, magnetic or impact, one or two eels, and where to aim them. One tip, some of the shallow-draught ships (I'm looking at you small tanker! ) have a very rounded hull which makes it easy for your impact pistol eel to bounce off and misfire, these should probably be attacked with magnetic pistols....

06-20-09, 12:20 PM	#10
ddiplock Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 552 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I can see this whole new dark atmosphere at night will be very frustrating to say the least. I just spent the whole night shadowing a convoy but not actually attacking as you can't attack what you cannot see. Only then to lose contact with the convoy before dawn and have them slip through my fingers.....had the atmosphere not been so dark, i'd have pressed in for a night attack