Spain invades seas around Gibraltar

Herr_Pete · 05-23-09, 05:01 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Gibraltar.html

Spain sending heavily armed ships into British waters yet again.

JALU3 · 05-24-09, 12:56 AM

When was the last time Spain has attempted to invade Gibraltar, not including these encroachments on sovereignty? I am presuming this also means that they have a jointly recognized territorial water boundry between the nation of Spain and the territory of Gibraltar?

Herr_Pete · 05-24-09, 02:42 AM

Several occassions over the years. It is because the Gibraltars waters arent mentioned in a certain treaty so they consider it to be spannish but with the a Royal Navty fleet based there it is considered british waters and is but spain don't seem to agree.

Raptor1 · 05-24-09, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JALU3

When was the last time Spain has attempted to invade Gibraltar, not including these encroachments on sovereignty?

1783, as far as I know

mactinez · 05-24-09, 12:54 PM

The treaty of Utrecht, which ceded the Rock. It refers only to land, rock and little else. So just where the land is just the sovereignty of the United Kingdom. In these 300 years by the United Kingdom has stolen land. appropriating the isthmus. Under the Treaty, neutral ground.

The incident is not part of the RN. It is the part of local police in the rock. The RN does that nonsense I think.

DAB · 05-24-09, 06:24 PM

Lets be frank, its a British tabloid blowing all of this way out of proportion. Best treat it in the same way as its news exclusive on the 2006 invasion of the Falkland Islands was treated... as entertaining fiction.

After all, the heavily armed warship (as they put it) was HMS Scimtar, an 18ton speed boat that protects the harbour. Now I know the Daily Mail has gripes with Labour's defence procurement programme; but a speed boat with a machine gun on the back is not a heavily armed British Warship.

bookworm_020 · 05-24-09, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DAB

Now I know the Daily Mail has gripes with Labour's defence procurement programme; but a speed boat with a machine gun on the back is not a heavily armed British Warship.

Give it time!!!

mikka · 05-25-09, 10:26 AM

If i were the spanish I'd avoid gibraltar waters altogether what with the Tireless leaking all over the place.

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JALU3 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: 11SMS 98896 10565 Posts: 756 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	When was the last time Spain has attempted to invade Gibraltar, not including these encroachments on sovereignty? I am presuming this also means that they have a jointly recognized territorial water boundry between the nation of Spain and the territory of Gibraltar? __________________ "The Federation needs men like you, doctor. Men of conscience. Men of principle. Men who can sleep at night... You're also the reason Section Thirty-one exists -- someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong." -Sloan, Section Thirty-One

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DAB Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 263 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Lets be frank, its a British tabloid blowing all of this way out of proportion. Best treat it in the same way as its news exclusive on the 2006 invasion of the Falkland Islands was treated... as entertaining fiction. After all, the heavily armed warship (as they put it) was HMS Scimtar, an 18ton speed boat that protects the harbour. Now I know the Daily Mail has gripes with Labour's defence procurement programme; but a speed boat with a machine gun on the back is not a heavily armed British Warship. __________________ ...snorting / snorkelling after several years of silent running.

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05-24-09, 02:42 AM	#3
Herr_Pete Commodore Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 623 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Several occassions over the years. It is because the Gibraltars waters arent mentioned in a certain treaty so they consider it to be spannish but with the a Royal Navty fleet based there it is considered british waters and is but spain don't seem to agree.

05-24-09, 12:54 PM	#5
mactinez Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cantabria-España Posts: 7 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	The treaty of Utrecht, which ceded the Rock. It refers only to land, rock and little else. So just where the land is just the sovereignty of the United Kingdom. In these 300 years by the United Kingdom has stolen land. appropriating the isthmus. Under the Treaty, neutral ground. The incident is not part of the RN. It is the part of local police in the rock. The RN does that nonsense I think.

05-25-09, 10:26 AM	#8
mikka Watch Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 26 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	If i were the spanish I'd avoid gibraltar waters altogether what with the Tireless leaking all over the place.