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Old 04-05-09, 05:56 AM   #1
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IF there were a moment when the fragile relationship between Joel Fitzgibbon and the defence establishment finally snapped, it might have been the surprise attack the minister launched on his own flock in Brisbane last October.
On that day Fitzgibbon did what previous defence ministers have rarely done: he gave his own defence force a blunt public spray about its big-picture priorities and its lack of preparedness for battle. Fitzgibbon was angry about not having the option of deploying the army's Black Hawk helicopters into Afghanistan. The minister had been taking political heat over an inadequate number of NATO medical evacuation choppers available for Australian troops at their base in Tarin Kowt, in Oruzgan province.
"If we do see a strategic and tactical justification for sending Black Hawks to Afghanistan tomorrow, we would be unable to do so as they lack the electronic warfare self-protection they require," Fitzgibbon lamented. "We spend a lot of time thinking and talking about important capability as we look far out into the future, but we seem to spend much less time talking about the capability we need to do the things we do right now and on a regular basis."
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So what now Australia?
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Old 04-05-09, 06:16 AM   #2
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I don't know enough to offer a considered opinion on what Australia should do about this, but I do wonder why they don't simply reduce the size of their military budget and focus on downsizing/modernizing the forces they have. It isn't as if anyone wants to invade Australia (or ever really has) and the U.S. maintains a significant presence in SE Asia.
Couldn't those funds be better directed towards economic development? Perhaps at making more of the country arable?
Well, it isn't like I would know anyway. Just taking shots in the dark, here.


One thing did catch my eye, though.
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The army also has a shortage of blue force tracking transponders, which allow friendly forces to know where our troops are and help avoid friendly-fire incidents. This would limit the number of elements we could deploy into a coalition environment.
Does anyone know if they have actually made that thing work the way its' supposed to yet? The last time I used one was in 06' and it didn't work worth a damn then. Good idea, poor implementation.
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No one wants to invade Australia?

I dunno, those New Zealanders are running out of space...
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It's my understanding that New Zealand has pretty much disbanded their air force in terms of strike capability. It's pretty much down to just search and rescue, maritime patrol and transport. Almost all of the RNZAF's fighter pilots have left New Zealand to serve in the Royal Australian Air Force.

Things must be quiet down under.
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Old 04-05-09, 12:44 PM   #6
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Looks like the cons are going down a similar route to the mother country

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Hey! I hear the Kangaroos outnumber the men 5 to 1. Ripe for the pickin....
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Old 04-05-09, 10:02 PM   #8
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It's my understanding that New Zealand has pretty much disbanded their air force in terms of strike capability. It's pretty much down to just search and rescue, maritime patrol and transport. Almost all of the RNZAF's fighter pilots have left New Zealand to serve in the Royal Australian Air Force.

Things must be quiet down under.
Yep correct. Even our soldiers in Afghanistan are just on re-construction i think thats the name they call it, where Kiwis are there for one thing only to help rebuild/protect. Same for iraq. Iraq's a little different though as kiwis can make lots of money from iraqi. A ex truckie mate spent 12 months in iraq as a bodyguard for private company (he only was a territorial soldier here in NZ meaning he only was in the army for 6 months! But he could fire a gun and do a little arm to arm combat). Came home a very rich man. Thanks GWB.
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No one wants to invade Australia?

I dunno, those New Zealanders are running out of space...
Japs 'll get 'yeh.

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Invade??? No, the Chinese will buy us out!
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Mmmmmmmm Kangaroo meat yum yum remind me in Queensland.
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