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Old 03-27-09, 01:14 PM   #1
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Honestly I couldent tell if this was a hoax piece or not.

However if it is not I'm sure some of you will find this disturbing news.

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Old 03-27-09, 01:23 PM   #2
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While this bears watching. Another knee-jerk news spew.

It's what the media do's best.
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Old 03-27-09, 01:29 PM   #3
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While this bears watching. Another knee-jerk news spew.

It's what the media do's best.

I'd go as far as to say it's what state-owned Russian media does best. This is slanted at best, propaganda at worst. Provide another source please.
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Old 03-27-09, 01:43 PM   #4
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I dont know why soviet russia would dis Obama after all he's in their corner.

But... like I said it almost seems like a hoax piece.

This is loosely related.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510948,00.html
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Old 03-27-09, 01:49 PM   #5
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Alarmist –noun 1. a person who tends to raise alarms, esp. without sufficient reason, as by exaggerating dangers or prophesying calamities.

Paranoia–noun 1. Psychiatry. a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission. 2. baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others.
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Niel if you read this make sure you have your records in order

"Ontario Judge demands website reveal info on 'annon. posters'"

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2...s-posters.html
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Old 03-27-09, 02:05 PM   #7
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I will not show my hard drive to any man
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Your right, you won't. Nor will you need to give up your guns, revert to a socialist system of government, be more susceptible to terrorist attack or make friends with terrorists. It doesn't stop the alarmists from wailing like spoiled school children though....
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Your right, you won't. Nor will you need to give up your guns, revert to a socialist system of government, be more susceptible to terrorist attack or make friends with terrorists. It doesn't stop the alarmists from wailing like spoiled school children though....
I have no guns. No big deal there. I do not see me reverting to any type of government. I'm good with just waking up in the morning. Sure we are safer from terrorist attacks( just trust me on that one that is all I can ask). Well, Paul Revere was an alarmist. What is wrong with an alarmist?
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No, he wasn't.
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Are you sure, did he really see the British?

Paul Revere's Midnight Ride was not a journey to alert his countrymen that the British were coming in order that they might as a group surrender their freedom in an orderly manner. He risked his life to forewarn like- minded individuals of the advancing British Army and the tyranny they sought to impose. The alarm he sounded was meant to awaken the spirit of rugged individualism, so that free men could rally to defend themselves from those who would deny them their liberty.
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Your right, you won't. Nor will you need to give up your guns, revert to a socialist system of government, be more susceptible to terrorist attack or make friends with terrorists. It doesn't stop the alarmists from wailing like spoiled school children though....
I'll start the wailing. You sure try hard to convince yourself that Democrats are not a problem. Big news....they are attrocious and very dangerous to liberty. Just what do you call a system of government that provides top to bottom "free" healthcare while undermining private health options? "Freedom"? "Liberty"? "Capitalism"? What is the problem that you simply cannot see the danger to personal and economic freedom while they now seize private businesses with taxpayer money and now are trying to control financial compensations within them? I guess to you that's "freedom" and bears no resemblance to any type of socialist central planning in anyway. Perhaps you can see the fascist resemblance to some of it? Perhaps not. I guess now that we cannot even define the enemy in the terror war, nor can we even properly describe the action as "war on terror" we're going to make friends with the enemy. And we will be safer to boot. We've already seen how his gestures played out with Iranian Ayatollah. And now we have his AG admitting some of the people at Guantanamo will have to be released in the US. Not my words...his. I'm sure you would feel comfortable if one of these guys moved next door to you because you so trust Obama and his decisions.

On the gun front, Democrats may not be taking away guns now, but they sure do make it more difficult for people to own them. They do everything they can to make the process of acquiring one a nightmare so as to perhaps dissuade people to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights. Take the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing and Records Act of this year and some of the troubling provisions within. It defines all gun dealings as interstate commerce, which automatically makes them subject to federal restrictions and it requires that all persons who even possess a "qualifying" firearm be licensed by the feds as a "gun dealer". Can you not see a problem there, or do you think this will reduce gun violence as the bill says it's main goal is? I guess you're just taking the administrations advice and just closing your eyes to it. Well that's easy for some I guess. I guess to many Dems, the alarm over what many see as gross incompetence, harmful financial and government realignments, irresponsible actions in our current overseas "contingency actions", and the incompetent foreign policy to go with it are something you should just simply term alarmist. Quite funny. But we do need more alarmed people out there against what you voted to bring us.
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That's a nice rant and all, but my point had nothing to do with Democrats, Obama, etc, etc. It had to do with alarmists. You know, "Obama will look at my hard drive!". Pshh. Puh-lease. Do better. I would have posted the same thing had Steamwake had posted about Aliens coming to juice my brain.

You know, I thought the last 8 years were "dangerous to liberty." Do you care? Nope. Move along. I don't do this stuff anymore, you may have noticed. Talking politics here is a monstrous waste of my time, IMO. It's not personal, it's just priorities.
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You know, I thought the last 8 years were "dangerous to liberty." Do you care? Nope.
If you truly didn't like whatever loss of liberty you perceived during the last 8 years, you should be complaining loudly now at the current administration. In fact you should be marching on Washington instead of trying to convince everybody that all's well now, and those with an actual financial stake in the economy who are complaining about problems ahead are just "spoiled children" and "alarmists". What's been outlined as of recent by this new and over-reaching Democrat filled government makes alot of the last 8 years pale in comparison in this area.

Now there are gross interventions and total losses of assets in the private sector to be managed by the feds. There is much more regulation coming outlined with nothing there that regulates that which protects consumers and product safety. Their trying to regulate financial compensations and other things the government should have no part of. Their going forward with their plans to implement "mandatory service". Fortunately, the so called "alarmists" have been successful in pushing them away from government confiscation of 401(k) assets for now. The so called "alarmists" have also made the administration rebuff and reverse calls for military service people have to pay for their own treatments.

The last 8 years are irrelevant at this point. But I did speak out loud about what I saw Bush do that I felt was improper. But honestly, Bush wasn't trying to turn as many people as possible into a government recipient. He actually saw the value in people keeping as much money as they earned in order for them to be the engine of economic growth. Unlike Obama's view that government with him at the helm is the only way to create a "growth vehicle". Seriously, people voted for change. And this "change" is truly no good. It's not personal, nor am I saying "damn you" to anyone for it. But my point is that elections matter. Obama wants to peek at my hard drive? Don't know if that's true but it wouldn't surprise me. He has no problem encroaching on me, my healthcare, my taxes, and my companies business.
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I was a proud alarmist* myself during the run up to the election, but I've pretty much given it up now as a futile endeavor. Those people who needed to listen didn't, and I'm not particularly interested in educating them now.

[*the problem with your definition of course, enigma, is use of the term "sufficient reason"...as though it must be a single discoverable, and quantifiable scientific fact. It isn't.]

My father has a saying: "It's never wise to separate a fool from his mistakes." In the case of the US electorate as a whole, that couldn't be done by any force on earth anyway, so the electorate will learn it's lesson one way or the other. It's beginning to realize it made a monumental mistake giving the Dems the keys to the treasury (and everything else), but unfortunately, I don't think the lesson will be learned in time to correct the error. Even two years from now, much of the damage will be irreparable.

I reserve all my sympathy now only for people like me...who voted for the other guys.

I have none for the electorate as a whole.


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