May I ask, What is wrong with the left coast???

[1480]

This sickens me to no end, why is the subject of sexuality brought up, other than a boy has a "weenus" and a girl has a "china", to 5-6 year olds? I'm leaving a link so you do not think I am rambling.


http://shavedlongcock.blogspot.com/2...dge-cards.html

[Blacklight]

I have no problem with what that teacher did. It's no different than having the students sign a pledge card not to call someone the "n" word or other racial slurs. It's not meant to be a plege plege. The purpose was obviously to teach the kids not to be racist or sexist. This teacher was teaching tollerance. Any age is appropriate for that in my opinion as long as it's done well. It does no good to hide gays and lesbiens from kids as they are out there and they SHOULDN'T be hidden. This should NOT even be an issue.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

I have no problem with what that teacher did. It's no different than having the students sign a pledge card not to call someone the "n" word or other racial slurs. It's not meant to be a plege plege. The purpose was obviously to teach the kids not to be racist or sexist. This teacher was teaching tollerance. Any age is appropriate for that in my opinion as long as it's done well. It does no good to hide gays and lesbiens from kids as they are out there and they SHOULDN'T be hidden. This should NOT even be an issue.

Again, I bring up the age issue. What age does a person discover sexuality??? Obviously, you have never had a child!

[Stealth Hunter]

Since you know and have a child, tell us, at what age should a child be taught these things?

[1480]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Since you know and have a child, tell us, at what age should a child be taught these things?

About non-NORMAL homo sapien physical relationships? NOT AT SCHOOL.

[Blacklight]

Better they learn from school rather than some biggot or their biggoted peers teach them. This isn't an issue of teaching kids about sex. This is an issue of teaching the kids tollerance toward different social groups. This is no different than teaching them tollerance of blacks, whites, Muslems, Christians, etc...
Sex does not come into the equasion with what this teacher was trying to teach.
The only reason this is even causeing a problem for a segment of people is that they're biggoted and want to "shield" their youngsters from the "devil" of gays/lesbians. Kids need to learn tollerance at a young age. They're never too young to learn that.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

Better they learn from school rather than some biggot or their biggoted peers teach them.

Are you accusing me of something? I bring up the AGE of the child and y'all start saying all kinds of bad things. So in your fun world Blacklight, you would want your 4-6 year old to learn about sexuality in schools, because they are not "biggoted?"

I am not sorry, but, I will not have my child taught about any type of sexuality at this age other then, what I mentioned before.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by 1480

About non-NORMAL homo sapien physical relationships? NOT AT SCHOOL.

Why the homophobia? I don't feel comfortable around gays, but I don't bash them or think they're evil or immoral. They have a right to love who they want to. "Inalienable Rights" (the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?) mean anything to anyone anymore?

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by 1480

Are you accusing me of something? I bring up the AGE of the child and y'all start saying all kinds of bad things. So in your fun world Blacklight, you would want your 4-6 year old to learn about sexuality in schools, because they are not "biggoted?"

I am not sorry, but, I will not have my child taught about any type of sexuality at this age other then, what I mentioned before.

Maybe it was the "non-NORMAL" part that got him worked up. It disturbs me when people try to define what is "normal" in these respects. I mean, what should be normal? Mainstream opinion? Opinion of the law? Religious outlook?

[Blacklight]

you would want your 4-6 year old to learn about sexuality in schools, because they are not "biggoted?"

I am not sorry, but, I will not have my child taught about any type of sexuality at this age other then, what I mentioned before.

You're missing my point. This isn't about teaching kids about sexuality. The teacher was NOT doing that. It's about teaching them to be tollerant of others. I'm not accusing you of anything. I just think you're missing my point.
If this teacher passed out tickets for the students to sign saying that they wouldn't use racial slurs or bad language about blacks for example, would this even be an issue ?
I repeat. This teacher was not teaching sexual relations. This teacher was teaching tollerance of another culture. I reiterate. A child can't learn tollerance early enough.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Why the homophobia? I don't feel comfortable around gays, but I don't bash them or think they're evil or immoral. They have a right to love who they want to. "Inalienable Rights" (the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?) mean anything to anyone anymore?

SH, never said I hate gays...where did I say that? I actually have quite a few friends that are gay. NO PROBLEM on that front. I just asked a simple question that obviously has never been experienced by the two detractor's on this thread and would like to take me up on this.

Don't know what you were doing in KINDERGARTEN, but I certainly do not remember tolerence lessons of Adam & Steve.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

You're missing my point. This isn't about teaching kids about sexuality. It's about teaching them to be tollerant of others. I'm not accusing you of anything. I just think you're missing my point.

Exactly, but he'll just say "Oh, but it still talks about sexuality!"

People, get real for a second. Kids are GOING to be exposed to this stuff someday. Trying to shield them from everything like this is just going to make them a lot worse off in life. How would you prefer it be done: in school, off TV, from the Internet? I'd prefer it in school, as done by a doctor.

Originally Posted by 1480

SH, never said I hate gays...where did I say that? I actually have quite a few friends that are gay. NO PROBLEM on that front. I just asked a simple question that obviously has never been experienced by the two detractor's on this thread and would like to take me up on this.

Then what did you mean by "non-normal homo sapien physical relationships"?

[1480]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

You're missing my point. This isn't about teaching kids about sexuality. The teacher was NOT doing that. It's about teaching them to be tollerant of others. I'm not accusing you of anything. I just think you're missing my point.
If this teacher passed out tickets for the students to sign saying that they wouldn't use racial slurs or bad language about blacks for example, would this even be an issue ?
I repeat. This teacher was not teaching sexual relations. This teacher was teaching tollerance of another culture. I reiterate. A child can't learn tollerance early enough.

Have you ever raised a child? A child is innocent until they learn hatred, intolerance and everything else. So why does a school have to impart a quality on a child that should not be there in the first place? BUT the child must "sign" a pledge that they will never say bad stuff, so they can throw them out of school quicker??? Not sure of that .

[1480]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Exactly, but he'll just say "Oh, but it still talks about sexuality!"

People, get real for a second. Kids are GOING to be exposed to this stuff someday. Trying to shield them from everything like this is just going to make them a lot worse off in life. How would you prefer it be done: in school, off TV, from the Internet? I'd prefer it in school, as done by a doctor.

Then what did you mean by "non-normal homo sapien physical relationships"?

By science and Darwin. Sex by its definition is a typology or definition of procreation. And your next humdinger is????

[Blacklight]

Don't know what you were doing in KINDERGARTEN, but I certainly do not remember tolerence lessons of Adam & Steve.

Times are different now. Back when I was in school, gay culture was seen as an underground and hidden kind of thing that was persecuted and spat on by 90% of the mainstream populous. I mean heck.. AIDS was blamed on them back then. Now, gays are out in the open. They're fighting the discrimination and they're out there. Kids are going to encounter gays and lesbians and often times, the biggotry that surrounds them. They're going to need the nescissary information in order to understand what's going on. They should NOT be shielded from this no more than they should be shielded from Black issues, or Muslem issues, etc..
It's much easier to teach tollerance at a young age rather than at an older age when they get more set in their ways.