Doctor's humour

[Skybird]

I had to visit the doc this morning.

He entered the room and had forgotten to take off some plexiglass face mask he was wearing for whatever a reason. I greeted him by noting that astronauts are allowed to get rid of their helmlets once they have left the space shuttle.

He measured my bloodpressure which for whatever a reason over the past couple of months had decided to almost explode to potentially threatening levels. When he had finished, he told me I should not worry that the space shuttle gets decommissioned, for with a pressure like that I would be able to easily reach the orbit without needing a shuttle at all.

Hm.

Lesson of it: never start telling stupid things to your doctor.

[August]

Is this an example of German humor? :p

[Syxx_Killer]

Are you trying to prove the "One Who Soars" title?

[Platapus]

Hope you can get your BP down. Hypertension is a killer.

[FIREWALL]

My Doctors humor was.....


It IS going to hurt YOU more then me.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Hope you can get your BP down. Hypertension is a killer.

Whom you are telling - I have had constant and serious headaches since 72 hours, counting. Did not sleep longer than for one hour in a row since weekend, and had a near-collapse this night. Problem is, I have a health problem since birth, regarding endocrine system and metabolism - it is accelerated and in in a state of constant maximum activation: "fight or flight", without drugs it does not rest, so to speak. I know since long that I will not become too old anyway, but why my BP exploded in such short period of time beyond the usual frame, doctor so far has no idea of. This morning I have been dated for plenty of diagnostics with specialists next week. For the time being, just a big callibre medication to fight the current spike in BP, and putting the rest of me into wax. I must say occasionally I have felt better in the past. I even had to put my parttime job in the hospital on ice.

First sunny day since two rainy weeks today: but being prohibited to do anything stressing, demanding, destracting, or to tour by bike, or to execise, or expose myself to warm temperatures outside. The inquisition is back.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Maybe you should come get some medical attention in the U.S. instead of the socialist Playskool healthcare over there :rotfl:

Sorry for the crude humor, I couldn't resist a jab given our ideological differences.
This sounds like a real problem though, I don't know anything about your health condition but I had high blood pressure until my doc suggested a healthier diet and a few other small steps that helped a lot.
Surprisingly, one of them was just taking 15 minutes or so each day, to sit down, and think. Almost like a meditation. Counting your blessings, reassuring yourself, calming down.
Also helpful was his suggestion to take a walk every day, just enjoying the world around me, not worrying about things.

Maybe it was one of the above or maybe it was the pills, but it helped.

Good luck with your BP, and I hope maybe these suggestions can help.

[Frame57]

Hope you feel better soon! HBP does have have contolling aspects to it. They are many. But it sounds like the condition you have is driven by a metabolic system disorder. That is another ball game entirely. If the fight or flight syndrome is being triggered inadvertantly. The adrenaline release causes HBP and other thing like PVC's. The best treatment for this would be a Beta Blocker, and preferably one that is time released. No. Not a Doc, but I work with Cardioligist in the Biomedical profession.

[bookworm_020]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

My Doctors humor was.....


It IS going to hurt YOU more then me.

I thought it was "It's going to cost you more than me":hmm:

Goodluck getting the bloodpressure down, skybird. Will this mean hat you will be calm and relaxed in all future post and no subject on things that make your blood boil???

Taking cover now......

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Maybe you should come get some medical attention in the U.S. instead of the socialist Playskool healthcare over there :rotfl:

Sorry for the crude humor, I couldn't resist a jab given our ideological differences.
This sounds like a real problem though, I don't know anything about your health condition but I had high blood pressure until my doc suggested a healthier diet and a few other small steps that helped a lot.
Surprisingly, one of them was just taking 15 minutes or so each day, to sit down, and think. Almost like a meditation. Counting your blessings, reassuring yourself, calming down.
Also helpful was his suggestion to take a walk every day, just enjoying the world around me, not worrying about things.

Maybe it was one of the above or maybe it was the pills, but it helped.

Good luck with your BP, and I hope maybe these suggestions can help.

Thanks a lot, but a lack of meditation cannot be the problem - I do it since my youth, and for years was a meditation teacher as well. I used to train a lot in earlier times, although that has come to a stop I cannot say that in the present I do not get my share of regular movement, this is the Münsterland for sure, famous for it's unbeaten tailoring of the infrastructure to the needs of bikes, and I have no car: I cannot escape to ride bike a lot, I also do inline skating, and am not shy to walk for an hour just to get to a baker and get a bread and have a walk through some romantic area meanwhile.


Frame,

thanks, I think much like you about it. while essential hypertension can also simply come all by itself without any faults in eating or excercising being done, I myself think that the underlying metabolic disorder is the trigger. It is a syndrome that never was explained, and I have had in depth diagnostics and monitoring in hospital at several times in my life. It always led nowhere. They never were able to give me a name of any disorder for it. just that things are not like they should be, and nthat it has a serious impact on me if ignoring it.


Bookworm,

thanks, but actually my forum postings ARE calm and relaxed...! And those guys who made my BP rise time and again I meanwhile have put on my ignore list.


anyhow, I just wanted to give that comedy scene from yesterday becasue both him and me had to laugh loud, and later I was carried away by the thread. the patient record for Skybird hereby is closed again.

[jeremy8529]

Sorry to hear about that m8, Good luck controlling your blood pressure, make sure you eat the right foods, and go easy on the Jeigerschinztel.

Question of curiosity, when they brought me out of surgery 2 months ago, my blood pressure was 170/120, how high is that really?

[antikristuseke]

my blood pressure is usualy at 140/95, doctors tell me i should worry about that a bit, but I do physically hard work and have no complaints. No headaches unless im hung over, or other symptoms associated with higher blood pressure. They allso keep asking me if i use doping because my hemoglobin count is way too high, but its been like that all my life and i dont really do any sports so the doping question usualy makes me laugh out loud.

[Frame57]

This is interesting. I joined the military when I was seventeen. At the physical I remember by BP being 138/82. they never blinked an eye about this. It has always been close to those numbers. But now the schmuck doctors want it BELOW 120/70. I too laugh a bit because I have had those number now for 30 years. My Unlce has always had high cholesteral and he died of Leukemia at 80. I think they just ant everyone drugged for the most part, so they can make money.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by jeremy8529

Sorry to hear about that m8, Good luck controlling your blood pressure, make sure you eat the right foods, and go easy on the Jeigerschinztel.

Question of curiosity, when they brought me out of surgery 2 months ago, my blood pressure was 170/120, how high is that really?

Now I dig deep in my memories of psychosomatic courses at university.

That value is definitley way too much if it is in your normal life. Get it checked by a doctor, if it is, and get it checked quick. Wether or not it was normal for you while coming out of surgery, I cannot tell you.

for a male, young and medium age, an often mentioned orientation value is 120/80. 140/90 may cause a doctor frown his eyebrows and tell you that treatment yet is not necessary, but one should keep a close eye on it in the future. If it goes higher than this, they will suggest a cardiologic check-up, and light medication is getting introduced sooner or later in order to at least prevent it going even higher. If it becomes even higher, they will start trying to get it down.

Note that heart-rate also needs to be taken into account, and close deseases like diabetes, and physical cindito0ns like fatness and/or overweight. If you have too high BP you will be told almost alwayst to keep your weight in shape. Fat people are constant victims of HT.

Essential Hypertonus can have links to causal variables like lacking excericising or bad food or smoking or a general unhealthy life, but it must not be caused by this, and can emerge all by itself, without an obvious reason at all, too. Like men around 30 suddenly win in weight due to changes in the metabolism; or like often in many old people, when they died and eventually undergo an autopsy, you find cancer tumours in various parts of the body that were unknown before and did not affect them, nor caused their death: in disputed Wilhelm Reich' words cancer maybe just is a sign for the absence of life energy, and since life energy fades when you become older, cancer could be seen as a natural symptom of age, eventually, in such cases.

do not take hyptonus, even a mild one, easy, because it tends to become worse, and it is a silent killer. It can - and oftehn does - strike without warning. It is one of the worst and most widespread killer factor in our civilisation. the second value (diastolic) is the more dangerous one, you need to keep this one low (so it is no surprise the army doctors did not worry about your values of 138/82, Frame). Also, you need your blood values, heart, and eye's inner background getting checked. If you ignore your tendency for hypertonus, you are playing with your life - nothing less than this. there is no need and no excuse to do so. When you have BP so high that you get headaches from it, you are in danger to your life when doing excersices and sport training then, then. I had values of 250/150 three days ago, and a heart rate exceeding 130. I do nnot do that anymore since years, but I did extensive martial arts for 18 years or more, and I still do a lot of cycling, and often long-range inline skating, so fitness probably still is not the problem .

You can be a physically trained athelete - and still suffer from hypertonus - never forget that.

[Frame57]

I agree Sky. I know of several lean and fit people who have HPB. My Doc told me to lose 15 pounds. I did, and my BP went up. I wanted to choke the Doc. There is more to these things than what they know. The current research being done by the AHA is that they are looking into aterilole plaque rather than cholesterol as being the prime factor in Myocarial Infarction. So, in the not too distant future. drug companies will have one for that problem.