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Old 07-04-08, 11:15 AM   #1
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Sex education for 4 year olds

This has to be the most disgustful thing to date to be suggested. In the name of common sense children should live like children and have a childhood. Stop forcing them to grow up fast which only results in a messed up child.

I hope this stupid idea gets thrown in the bin.


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Give four-year-olds sex education, say charities

Two leading sexual health charities are calling for children as young as four to be given compulsory sex education.

Brook and the Family Planning Association (FPA) argue that teaching children about sex from a young age would help reduce abortion rates and sexually transmitted infections when they reach adolescence. The charities said children should be taught the names of body parts and about sex and relationships.

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,2289256,00.html
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Old 07-04-08, 11:26 AM   #2
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This has to be the most disgustful thing to date to be suggested. In the name of common sense children should live like children and have a childhood. Stop forcing them to grow up fast which only results in a messed up child.

I hope this stupid idea gets thrown in the bin.


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Give four-year-olds sex education, say charities

Two leading sexual health charities are calling for children as young as four to be given compulsory sex education.

Brook and the Family Planning Association (FPA) argue that teaching children about sex from a young age would help reduce abortion rates and sexually transmitted infections when they reach adolescence. The charities said children should be taught the names of body parts and about sex and relationships.

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,2289256,00.html
As a father of 4 girls, I can't believe what I'm reading. My youngest is 5 years old and she mearly giggles when she sees her mom and I hug..."You're in love and married". I'd hate to see her innocence taken away for the 'future' possibility of STD and abortion teaching.
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Old 07-04-08, 11:45 AM   #3
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Yep agree with that. Stupid baby boomer hippies here. My 6 year old thinks it is great when me and the wife hug..she goes around saying "you love each other" and that is the end of it....and when she has a bath with Max she thinks his willy is just something to grab hold of for a laugh...(Max is 2 now by the way)....

Saying that a friend of ours explained to her son who is the same age as my daughter where babies come from...(explaining the difference between men and wome). Anyway the upshot of that was hse explained how girls pee and then she said where babies come from..His response? "Can I see....." great!!!!!!
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Old 07-04-08, 11:48 AM   #4
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Boy I know why I left social and psychological science behind - too much crap-thinking there.

Health care charities, eh? Damn freaks - that's what I say. Has anybody considered to check out if maybe a pedophile interest organisation is behind this? No kidding, there are efforts from such deeply rotten organizations to lower the age for children having legal sex with adults to low one-digit ranges because "little kids have a right to experience tenderness" and "forbidding pedophiles to live out their gentle motivation and criminalising their interest and calling it perverse is a form of discrimination".

Both quotes are original quotes from a german TV documentation broadcasted maybe four years ago. I was so annoyed that I deeply engraved it in my memory.

But we certainly do not wish to discirminate somebody, don't we.

From a psychologist's perspective i must say the argument of that charity organisation is pseudo-intellectual excrement making mockery of every serious psychological theory of mental developement in children we have. Note that what they propose is someting totally different than kids in primitive tribes being risen in a climate of where being naked and relations between men and women are being experienced in a completely different situational context.

As a very close friend of a family with two girls, 3 and 6 years, I must say I feel that I really would like to have a silent little word in the cellar with those braindead charity workers, one by one.

Four years, good heaven. that is as disgusting like having 14 or 15 year olds lectured and drilled in military weapons handling. Bah.
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Old 07-04-08, 11:50 AM   #5
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In the name of common sense children should live like children and have a childhood. Stop forcing them to grow up fast which only results in a messed up child.
OH YES...!
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Old 07-04-08, 12:05 PM   #6
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While I agree that sex education (appropriate to the age) is a good thing. I am having a hard time imagining what would be appropriate for a four year old.
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My god. Here in Germany they do this in 4th grade (10 year olds). Just before they start to get "interested" in the other sex.
What the hell is a four year old supposed to do with that knowledge which he/she can't understand at that point anyway?
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Hey in some parts of teh UK they'd be like, great now I know exactly when I can get the baby and benefits.......

OK bad taste..I'm going to have to look into this more.
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Great, now I'm having flashbacks to when VADM Joycelyn Elders was the Surgeon General.

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Old 07-04-08, 05:28 PM   #12
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This has to be the most disgustful thing to date to be suggested. In the name of common sense children should live like children and have a childhood.
Can not agree with you more. This is really SICK. At least wait to they are 14.
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This has to be the most disgustful thing to date to be suggested. In the name of common sense children should live like children and have a childhood.
Can not agree with you more. This is really SICK. At least wait to they are 14.
I think that might be shutting the gate after the horse by the time kids are 14.
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I figure 14 is ok, but only if they have not asked questions by that time. If a kid starts to ask earlier then 14, that would be a good time to try to address it, not avoid it.

I agree with some in that it is not age specific but child specific.
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I don't believe it somehow ruins the innocence of kids or somehow ends their childhood
because to a young child the birds and the bees is irrelevant and uninteresting
compared to tree-houses, dolls, toilet humor or dinosaurs etc.

My parents where a little too English to talk to me frankly as a child so from well before
I was 4 they left a picture book called "Where do babels come from?" in my room.

When I couldn't read I ignored it coz the pictures where boring.
When I could read I ignored it because the story line was crap.
Only by the age of 5 did I become curious to such things and then the book explained
everything. A good way to go about it imho.


By the time the school educated me I had learnt everything (and a lot of dis-information)
from the playground chat. They should have addressed it earlier I think.

I don't mind what age the teach it in schools. Before the age of 8 it's just not gonna
be interesting for most kids. After the age of 13 and you risk leaving them uninformed letting horses bolt.
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