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Old 05-19-08, 03:06 PM   #1
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"CERN is an acronym for The European Organization for Nuclear Research. They currently have the prestige of owning the worlds largest particle physics laboratory which is located on the Swiss/French border. This is a title previously held by the Americans at Fermilab located near Chicago.

Apparently 2 scientists are suing the organization for downplaying the possibility that the CERN particle collider could possibly create a black hole which would devour the earth, and then the solar system; and that their is also a slight possibility that the lab could also create something called "strange" matter which could in turn overtake the real matter of our corner in the universe and of course render us all extinct. Be sure and add Walter L. Wagner and Luis Sancho to your prayers this evening for doing their part in attempting to save humanity."

Read the full article here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/sc...in&oref=slogin
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Old 05-19-08, 03:23 PM   #2
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Interesting article.

Well, if it does go wrong, a black hole should make the whole process quick and painless if current theories prevail...

I'd rather go that way than wonder when a bomb is going to go off in my neighborhood, or what kind of "invincible germ" the biologists are going to cook up and infect the planet with...
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Old 05-19-08, 03:26 PM   #3
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That Atlas unit is something else!
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Old 05-19-08, 03:27 PM   #4
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This all seems very silly.
One would imagine that the guys who know how to build these things will also take such eschatological concerns into acount. Bah.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/op...in&oref=slogin :P

Oh, and every time I think about what they're doing at CERN, my mental jaw drops. A passing acquaintance (an astrophysicist) is working there, I must kind out what he's up to.
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Old 05-19-08, 03:40 PM   #5
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I don't think there is any real danger. The singularity will be magnetically suspended rendering it harmless, as well as simply shutting off the power eliminates it. However, if you control gravity, you also control time... What is the scarier proposition knowing this?

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Old 05-19-08, 04:04 PM   #6
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Apparently 2 scientists are suing the organization for downplaying the possibility that the CERN particle collider could possibly ..... Be sure and add Walter L. Wagner and Luis Sancho to your prayers this evening for doing their part in attempting to save humanity."
I read this sometime agoand IIRC when they say scientists they are in fact the god botherers version of scientists, I think it's the head gardener and his mate...remeber these lackluster twits in your prayers says enough I think.
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Old 05-19-08, 05:05 PM   #7
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I read this sometime agoand IIRC when they say scientists they are in fact the god botherers version of scientists, I think it's the head gardener and his mate...remeber these lackluster twits in your prayers says enough I think.
Has nothign to do with that. There is a very real danger of a non properly conatined singularity gaining mass. That is the danger. if it did, then we could all end up dead, so it is not something to shove under the carpet by any means.

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Old 05-19-08, 05:15 PM   #8
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I'm excited beyond words on the commisioning of the LHC! 3-4 months before the first collision event takes place.
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IIRC aren't the odds of a black hole or singularity occuring astronomically high?
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Old 05-19-08, 05:32 PM   #10
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IIRC aren't the odds of a black hole or singularity occuring astronomically high?
Pretty much a guarantee. So yes is the answer to your question.

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Old 05-19-08, 05:12 PM   #11
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Well, why not this way. Nothing lasts forever, and human civilisation and developement of mind seems to have been gone beyond climax point anyway. Since our perception of what we call cosmos is just inside our mind anyway, the idea of this mind being swallowed up by some creation of this mind itself, has a somewhat ironic charm. at least it is more original, and has more drama than just a boring nuclear war, or a global pandemic infection - all this stuff Hollywood already has told us. But human mind being swallowed by its own creation - hehe, has anyone evr considered that the opposite might be the case and we might end up with Romulan bird of prey (that use a singularity core as energy source for their warp-rives)?

BTW, this is a heck of a good and intense movie:
http://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Earth-Br...1235496&sr=8-1

Maybe the best in its genre.
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Old 06-07-08, 05:37 PM   #12
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I read this sometime agoand IIRC when they say scientists they are in fact the god botherers version of scientists, I think it's the head gardener and his mate...remeber these lackluster twits in your prayers says enough I think.
I just wanted to defend myself real quick on this topic.... I in no way am affiliated with either of those scientists, nor do I support their claim. The "prayers" sentence was added as a joke, as I am an agnostic. I found this while googling my site and was surprised to see someone quoted my shorthand of the actual story.

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Old 06-08-08, 04:07 AM   #13
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I don't see why you should defend yourself. On the other hand, it's extremely naive to post things in the internet and be surprised if it gets spread.
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Old 06-15-08, 07:39 PM   #14
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I don't see why you should defend yourself. On the other hand, it's extremely naive to post things in the internet and be surprised if it gets spread.
I'm not surprised something from my blog got spread, I was just correcting the person that wrote this "remeber these lackluster twits in your prayers says enough I think."

As if my write up was an official press release on behalf of some Christian organization. I was just pointing out that the "prayers" line was a joke.
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Old 06-16-08, 12:27 AM   #15
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I have no problem with scientist working on black hole matter. What I have a problem with is they're doing it on earth. If safety protocol fails we're all dead in a flash. They should do this far away like in another star system. If they botch up no real loss.:hmm: I have no interest in being turned into particles. I still need more Rum and women hehehe. I hope my wife doesn't read the last part.
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