Nuclear weapons launch...

Steel_Tomb · 05-06-08, 09:59 AM

Just finished watching Crimson Tide, brilliant film

a good thriller. However, it got me thinking. When they recieve the original EAM authorizing deployment of SLBM's, I thought holy ****, what must it feel like to be on a boomer knowing that by pressing a single button you will wipe out millions if not billions of lives. Such is the harsh reality of nuclear war, but putting yourself in that position... would you personally be able to carry out an order like that... to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike? I don't think I could, and if I could I don't believe I could live with myself. I'm talking in the sence that its a pre-emptive strike, if russian/chinese missiles were already in the air I think I would act differently knowing what was about to happen to the people I love... what do you guys think?

Oberon · 05-06-08, 10:01 AM

I guess that's where training comes in, but I should imagine the suicide rate would be quite high. Then of course you're faced with an 'On the Beach' scenario after it's all over.

bradclark1 · 05-06-08, 10:48 AM

You look within yourself and if you think you can't then quickly get a transfer out. If it's come to the point that there is going to be a nuke release from both sides I'd rather go ahead and do a pre-emptive strike.
I'd press the botton but don't know if I could live with myself after. I think it's a question nobody really knows the answer too until the event happens.

Konovalov · 05-06-08, 01:09 PM

So where do those Lipizzaner stallions come from and what colour are they at birth?

TLAM Strike · 05-06-08, 01:26 PM

There are no doubt screenings to "weed out" recruits for Navy SSBNs and the Air Force's SAC/Missile Command who would be unable to launch such weapons.

BTW I don't think anyone here as ever called Crimson Tide a brilliant film around here before...

Obie: I think 'On the Beach' was a little over the top and filled with poor science. Unless you went and and hunted down evey pocket of humanity and nuked it I really doubt that human kind would be killed by a nuclear war as portraied in OTB. If you can survive (by being in fallout shelters/mine shafts/bunkers) the bombings and fallout spread by winds/storms for the first year and are willing to clean up and build new cities humanity would be back in a few centuries.

Assuming Dave Bowman donsn't just erase all the nuclear bombs before they can be used... Sorry I just read 2001 by Arthur C. Clarke few days ago.

Steel_Tomb · 05-06-08, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

BTW I don't think anyone here as ever called Crimson Tide a brilliant film around here before...

Well, its not exactly in the same league as Das Boot... but as far as a thriller goes its good... if a bit detached from reality in parts.

mapuc · 05-06-08, 06:00 PM

It got me thinking of an old movie

Wargame

The first 5 minutes it

Markus

Jimbuna · 05-07-08, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

BTW I don't think anyone here as ever called Crimson Tide a brilliant film around here before...

Well, its not exactly in the same league as Das Boot... but as far as a thriller goes its good... if a bit detached from reality in parts.

One thing that is beyond doubt AFAIC....the music by Mr Zimmer is sensational

05-06-08, 09:59 AM	#1
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nuclear weapons launch... Just finished watching Crimson Tide, brilliant film a good thriller. However, it got me thinking. When they recieve the original EAM authorizing deployment of SLBM's, I thought holy **, what must it feel like to be on a boomer knowing that by pressing a single button you will wipe out millions if not billions of lives. Such is the harsh reality of nuclear war, but putting yourself in that position... would you personally be able to carry out an order like that... to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike? I don't think I could, and if I could I don't believe I could live with myself. I'm talking in the sence that its a pre-emptive strike, if russian/chinese missiles were already in the air I think I would act differently knowing what was about to happen to the people I love... what do you guys think? __________________ _______________________________________________ System Spec: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz \| 4Gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator DDR2 PC-2 6400 RAM \| XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb PCI-E \| Creative X-fi sound card \| 250Gb HDD \| Rest In Peace Dave, you will be missed.**

05-06-08, 10:48 AM	#3
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	You look within yourself and if you think you can't then quickly get a transfer out. If it's come to the point that there is going to be a nuke release from both sides I'd rather go ahead and do a pre-emptive strike. I'd press the botton but don't know if I could live with myself after. I think it's a question nobody really knows the answer too until the event happens. __________________

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Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	So where do those Lipizzaner stallions come from and what colour are they at birth? __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

05-06-08, 01:26 PM	#5
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	There are no doubt screenings to "weed out" recruits for Navy SSBNs and the Air Force's SAC/Missile Command who would be unable to launch such weapons. BTW I don't think anyone here as ever called Crimson Tide a brilliant film around here before... Obie: I think 'On the Beach' was a little over the top and filled with poor science. Unless you went and and hunted down evey pocket of humanity and nuked it I really doubt that human kind would be killed by a nuclear war as portraied in OTB. If you can survive (by being in fallout shelters/mine shafts/bunkers) the bombings and fallout spread by winds/storms for the first year and are willing to clean up and build new cities humanity would be back in a few centuries. Assuming Dave Bowman donsn't just erase all the nuclear bombs before they can be used... Sorry I just read 2001 by Arthur C. Clarke few days ago. __________________

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05-06-08, 10:01 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I guess that's where training comes in, but I should imagine the suicide rate would be quite high. Then of course you're faced with an 'On the Beach' scenario after it's all over.

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	It got me thinking of an old movie Wargame The first 5 minutes it Markus