To the American: Are you proud?

[mapuc]

In todays eveningnews papper "Expressen" on the leader page(usually page 2) said that the amerian was tired of 8 years with Bush and want something new and proud to be an american again

Only person that's not proud, what I know of, is this Michael Moore

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[Ducimus]

>>To the American: Are you proud?

Simple question, but the answer isn't so simple.

[Blacklight]

I can definitely say I agree with that article. I'm not quiet about my hatred toward George W. and his entire administration. He and his people are basically hand puppets for the oil industry, big money, and special interest groups. I don't think the Bush administration will be happy until they democrotise the Middle East or at least put puppet governments in power there.

I'm not proud of being an American at this point. The government that was elected for the past 8 years goes against every belief and moral fiber of my being. I've been involved in more protests these past years than I've been involved with in my entire life !! Don't even get me started.

[Onkel Neal]

Doesn't matter if I'm proud or not, the important part is I am American.

[SUBMAN1]

I differ than one of the above post. Simple answer is yes, and very much so. Micheal Moore and Blacklight are the only two that are not. He who is a fool only thinks that America is not respected anymore. The fact we have so much respect is one reason to be proud as an American. We still uphold values and morals, when other countries are faltering.

As Neal said - I am American, and I won't forget it.

-S

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Doesn't matter if I'm proud or not, the important part is I am American.

That about covers it.

[August]

I've always been proud to be an American. The party our president is from does not change that.

[Blacklight]

I'm not really saying that I'm not proud to be an American as I try to live up to the ideal of being what I feel an American SHOULD be. I just feel that our government isn't setting a very good example in a large number of cases. I agree that this country is far better off than a lot of places in the world. As far as the US being respected....yes... it's respected... BUT....
Our president and his administration is not respected by a large portion of the average people from other countries. Case in point. My father just did some world traveling and one of the questions he was asked the most by locals durring his trip was "WHY THE HELL DID YOU GUYS ELECT THAT IDIOT TWICE !?!"
By maybe the third day of his travel, he was asked this so much that had a well rehearsed speech set up starting off with... "Well.. first of.. I didn't vote for him.."

I also think that too much of the respect that the US gets is from FEAR instead of just respect.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

>>To the American: Are you proud?

Simple question, but the answer isn't so simple.

I guess ill expand on that a little.

I don't think our country is perfect. I say and think this, in the thought that if we can find and acknowledge our faults, we can make our country even greater. I feel we've done many things to be proud of, and we've also done things that aren't things to be proud of. There are times when i am proud, and there are times when i am embarrased. But at the end of the day, it is still my country, and my home, and one has to make a stand somewhere. So for better or for worse, i would defend it to my last breath.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Blacklight

..."WHY THE HELL DID YOU GUYS ELECT THAT IDIOT TWICE !?!"....

Simple answer? John Kerry.

-S

[mapuc]

I'm trying to find this article on their the homepage, but I can't find it and furthermore it's in swedish and my english isn't so good that I can translate it into english

The sentence I wrote above, was a part of this article and was about your election of who are going to be the next Democrate to run for the White house

Event though I'm not an american, I say that neal said it and as I wrote before in an another thread(can't remember where) It's okey to hate your government but don't hate your country as so

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[DeepIron]

I'm proud to be what I would call a "fundamentalist" American. I wholeheartedly support the US Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

Why "fundamentalist"? Because despite the actions of our recent past and current administrations, the fundamental concepts that the Founding Fathers laid down still exist and are still valid. Politicians may come and go, but the Constitution and Bill of Rights live on.

[Blacklight]

I don't think our country is perfect. I say and think this, in the thought that if we can find and acknowledge our faults, we can make our country even greater. I feel we've done many things to be proud of, and we've also done things that aren't things to be proud of. There are times when i am proud, and there are times when i am embarrased. But at the end of the day, it is still my country, and my home, and one has to make a stand somewhere. So for better or for worse, i would defend it to my last breath.

I completely agree with this statement !

Originally Posted by Blacklight
..."WHY THE HELL DID YOU GUYS ELECT THAT IDIOT TWICE !?!"....
Simple answer? John Kerry.

I think Kerry would have made a good president. The problem was that whoever was organizing his campagn was LOUSEY. His speeches were more designed for inner city lower income to lower middle class people to hear and they didn't change his speeches for when he went to the big "Conservative" states so he was talking about problems that the people in those states just couldn't relate to at all. Not to mention, the Republicans had (and still have) mastered the art of spin doctoring to a level I've never seen before. Kerry's campaign people didn't do any spin doctoring and overall, the people running his campaign did a VERY POOR job.

In the end, it was the Republican spin doctoring, fear mongering of another 9/11, and Kerry's innept campaign staff that got Bush elected twice.

[SUBMAN1]

See, you can guage the rest of the worlds opinion quite easily about any country in the world, regardless of what screwed up reporter writes about it. Know how?

Simply guage the number of people who want to get into a particular country vs. how many want to get out. It is that simple.

Since so many want into my country, shouldn't I feel proud to be an AMerican?

-S

[mapuc]

The Journalist also wrote, that the only person that has the possibility to make the american proud again, is Obama.

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