Clinton responsible for Warrantless Wiretapping?

[SUBMAN1]

Nice. Program has been in place during the 1990's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/wa...=1&oref=slogin

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12...apping_latest/

-S

[Stealth Hunter]

Nice try on their part, but wiretapping has been in place since Nixon went into office. I used to work for AT&T during the 1970's and '80's, and we were wiretapping back then just as we are now.

It's not Clinton's fault. These people are just trying to pin the blame on him and walk away from the scene of the crime. Nixon is the first one who did major wiretapping schemes (not something you'd read about everyday), not Clinton.

[Skybird]

Yep, Nixon's the name I also remember in this context.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Nice try on their part, but wiretapping has been in place since Nixon went into office. I used to work for AT&T during the 1970's and '80's, and we were wiretapping back then just as we are now.

It's not Clinton's fault. These people are just trying to pin the blame on him and walk away from the scene of the crime. Nixon is the first one who did major wiretapping schemes (not something you'd read about everyday), not Clinton.

Nixon only did it in relation to his campaign. This is constant wiretapping on a daily basis for both drug enforcement and terrorists activities.

Kind of different.

It just irks me that a lot of liberals out here blame this on the Bush admin when it has been going on for a while. This is again, one less thing to blame on Bush. He may have screwed up on the Mexican thing, but the more time goes on, all this crap I keep hearing him get nailed on was never started by him. If you were over here, you'd know what I am talking about. This is in relation to the current string of wiretaps of course - they have been in place since the mid 90's.

-S

[Zachstar]

Dude why are you defending a sinking ship.

If you want Bush to not face jail then a good thing to do is let people FORGET about it.

Bush will be out of office soon enough and everyone will forget. I sure hope nobody is going to let some recent hot air think bush is going to be impeached or anything.

Clinton got away with having sex. Bush will get away for starting a stupid war. Ms. Clinton will get away with being a *****. Unless Ron Paul lays the smack down and thats the bottom line!

[Reaves]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Clinton got away with having sex. Bush will get away for starting a stupid war. Ms. Clinton will get away with being a *****. Unless Ron Paul lays the smack down and thats the bottom line!

I thought he got in trouble for lying about not having sex with 'that woman' not actually doing the deed.

But then again, we'd have no politicians if that was the case!!!

[sonar732]

Don't forget...

Oral Sex isn't sex. :hmm:

I'd like to see my wife's reaction to that if I attempted that excuse. :rotfl::rotfl:

[August]

Originally Posted by Reaves

I thought he got in trouble for lying about not having sex with 'that woman' not actually doing the deed.

Yeah, lying under oath in a court of law to be exact. Less illegal but more damning in my book is him addressing the nation on the subject and lying right to our faces. Literally waggling his finger in the collective faces of the American people in phony outrage.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Dude why are you defending a sinking ship.

If you want Bush to not face jail then a good thing to do is let people FORGET about it.

Bush will be out of office soon enough and everyone will forget. I sure hope nobody is going to let some recent hot air think bush is going to be impeached or anything.

Clinton got away with having sex. Bush will get away for starting a stupid war. Ms. Clinton will get away with being a *****. Unless Ron Paul lays the smack down and thats the bottom line!

I honestly think Clinton has no chance. Bush / jail, no chance either. Clinton has too much baggage, I think maybe one in 10 people I know only partially like her. On the Bush thing, not sure why jail would be an option?

-S

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Nice. Program has been in place during the 1990's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/wa...=1&oref=slogin

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12...apping_latest/

-S

The fuss is the level of expansion under Bush. If you going to run a bash Clinton thread at least say the whole thing. It's no revelation either, back then the Republicans tried blocking. It made the news enough. Blame it all on Clinton. Lied about a blow job too. Now thats a real serious issue that deserves attention.

[August]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Lied about a blow job too. Now thats a real serious issue that deserves attention.

That's an all too common attitude among Democrats. Lying is ok as long as its your man doing it right?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

That's an all too common attitude among Democrats. Lying is ok as long as its your man doing it right?

Well, it seems that mountains can be made out of blowjob-shaped molehills, regardless of party affiliation.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by August

That's an all too common attitude among Democrats. Lying is ok as long as its your man doing it right?

I believe in putting things in perspective. Who's business is it to anybody but Hillary's? Congress sure as hell didn't need to know. How many millions was spent on that? What was the danger to national security? The running of this country came to a near standstill because congress wanted to know if Clinton was getting it on with some woman. You think thats the roll of goverment? No wonder we are so screwed up as a nation.

[August]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

I believe in putting things in perspective. Who's business is it to anybody but Hillary's? Congress sure as hell didn't need to know. How many millions was spent on that? What was the danger to national security? The running of this country came to a near standstill because congress wanted to know if Clinton was getting it on with some woman. You think thats the roll of goverment? No wonder we are so screwed up as a nation.

Nobody in Congress cared a hoot about him cheating on Hillary. They felt for some reason that Clinton lying, under oath, in a court of law, constituted obstruction of justice and perjury, both impeachable offenses. Ultimately they let him off the hook for political reasons even though it was pretty clear he had done exactly that.

The usual political obfuscations are one thing ,but in my book the President of our country is supposed to be trustworthy and lying under oath, REGARDLESS of the subject, is just not acceptable. It's pretty clear that the man was/is a sexual predator and i find the Democrats willingness to ignore that fact just because he's one of their own to be hypocritical.

[Zachstar]

My god yet another round of Clinton lied and nobody died disscussion.

Clinton was not found guilty. END OF STORY Newsflash: He is no longer the president.

Can we move on to the other parts?