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Old 10-24-07, 04:05 PM   #1
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Default Concord to be replaced... By a hydrogen burning aircraft???

Now this is the type of progress I love! Aerospace is on the right track for once! I hope you suceed in your endeavor Mr. European space Agency! America should look at you for inspiration.

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Old 10-24-07, 04:15 PM   #2
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the wing design looks like a copy from the Myasishchyev M-50 "Bounder"

And I have to wonder if it's really of that size compared to the A380, the wings looks a bit small and somewhat too much at the back of the plane... well, I'm no expert on aerodynamics, but it really doesn't look like it'd fly well...
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Based on the wing structure, I'd imagine that they're looking at this like an F-104.

Built for speed between places rather than maneuverability.
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Old 10-24-07, 04:24 PM   #4
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Very early stages.
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The Starfighter also crossed my mind when seeing the CG pic
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Very early stages.
Yep. I have little faith in the Europeans to put it together, but I hope they do. The world needs projects like this.

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Old 10-24-07, 05:00 PM   #7
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I suppose it's not a good sign that the design for that plane reminds me of the ol' "Fireflash" passenger jet of doom, from Thunderbirds.

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I suppose it's not a good sign that the design for that plane reminds me of the ol' "Fireflash" passenger jet of doom, from Thunderbirds.

Damn, too late, I was going to mention that the concept plane look like the ones use on the thunderbirds episodes... Great one Mike@UK
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Whats the point of super-sonic aircraft?

I would rather have a more comftable, but slow plane than a faster one.
Something you could walk around it with a bar would be nice. Perhaps a viewing platform as well and a cafe.

Bring back the zeppalin.
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Whats the point of super-sonic aircraft?

I would rather have a more comftable, but slow plane than a faster one.
Something you could walk around it with a bar would be nice. Perhaps a viewing platform as well and a cafe.

Bring back the zeppalin.
Zeppelins are more than just slow...they're too expensive to operate in the modern world. Keep in mind it's not just the cost of the lifting gas, ballast, and fuel, but there's also the lack of pilots, the multi-million cost of building them in the first place, and the very expensive ground-crew costs and the MASSIVE hangars required to house the zeppelins in storms.

Zeppelin hangars at Moffett Field along the runways (former home to the USS Akron and USS Macon, US Navy Zeppelins):


What can happen when an airship is not placed in a hangar:
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Old 10-24-07, 10:04 PM   #11
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Zeppelins are more than just slow...they're too expensive to operate in the modern world.
Oh, sure, I don't doubt it. They where always expensive.
Likewise, so are super sonic jets; if only to cover the development costs.

But I imagine you could make a comfortable large jet if you halved the number of
passengers and dubbed the price per ticket.

Better than halving the transit time and doubling the ticket prices IMHO.

I suspect I might be in a minority tho, so it wont make financial sense.

*edit* What is that HUGE whie door at the bottom of your photo?
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What can happen when an airship is not placed in a hangar:
At least it is no "hydrogen burning aircraft".
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What can happen when an airship is not placed in a hangar:
At least it is no "hydrogen burning aircraft".
No...no...that would be this...


Still would love to travel on one though...I mean, it's like a flying ocean liner, no cattle class.
Tickets would be bloody expensive though...
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The M-50 also sprang to mind



Although I can't decide which I'd prefer to see flying today, the M-50 or the Thunderbirds airliner
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What can happen when an airship is not placed in a hangar:
At least it is no "hydrogen burning aircraft".
No...no...that would be this...


Still would love to travel on one though...I mean, it's like a flying ocean liner, no cattle class.
Tickets would be bloody expensive though...
Well keep in mind that in that photo is not only the hydrogen burning but the outer skin, which was composed of some of the ingredients of rocket fuel and thermite.
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