Pope John Paul II Returns

[STEED]

Yes another wacky vision story.

Is this Pope John Paul II waving from beyond the grave? Vatican TV director says yes

[Skybird]

Scary.

The level of credulity, i mean. But as long as people keep their ideas to themselves and do not demand them to influence public life and politics, I would say its their own private business and must not be our concern.

Originally Posted by STEED

Yes another wacky vision story.

Is this Pope John Paul II waving from beyond the grave? Vatican TV director says yes

Yeah, if you look at anything long enough, you can also see Jesus, Mary, and Elvis in the flames as well.

It's fire - sure it wasn't the devil waving, getting ready for the END of TIMES?

<churchlady> Are they sure it wasn't actually.........SATAN!!?? </churchlady>
Sheesh.

[The Avon Lady]

Couldn't it be the Angel of Burning Tires? :hmm:

[lesrae]

Originally Posted by Skybird

...as long as people keep their ideas to themselves and do not demand them to influence public life and politics, I would say its their own private business and must not be our concern.

Well said

[STEED]

I wonder how many believe this sort of thing?

[kranz]

Hi
I think that many-it depends on people's attitude to beliving in God etc.I'm from poland so I understand why many people believe that they have seen pope in those flames.They are trying to find ANY reason to accelareate the process of making John Paul II a saint.But I don't identify with them and I don't see anything funny and amusing in showing a rubber guy from Michelin in this topic-I know that jews in auschwitz were only beliving that they would surely die-so "The Avon Lady" from Jerusalem-watch your language while making fun of sth.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by kranz

Hi
I think that many-it depends on people's attitude to beliving in God etc.I'm from poland so I understand why many people believe that they have seen pope in those flames.They are trying to find ANY reason to accelareate the process of making John Paul II a saint.But I don't identify with them and I don't see anything funny and amusing in showing a rubber guy from Michelin in this topic-I know that jews in auschwitz were only beliving that they would surely die-so "The Avon Lady" from Jerusalem-watch your language while making fun of sth.

This has nothing to do with challenging a religion or its figures.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by kranz

I know that jews in auschwitz were only beliving that they would surely die

Care to explain this comment and its relevance to the topic at hand?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by kranz

I know that jews in auschwitz were only beliving that they would surely die

Maybe you want to read a bit of Viktor Frankl, Kranz. Just to learn how totally wrong you are in that statement - as far as that statement has any meaning, that is.

from wikipedia:
"Viktor Emil Frankl, M.D., Ph.D., (March 26, 1905 - September 2, 1997) was an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist as well as a Holocaust survivor. Frankl was the founder of logotherapy and Existential Analysis, the "Third Viennese School" of psychotherapy. His book Man's Search for Meaning (first published in 1946) chronicles his experiences as a concentration camp inmate and describes his psychotherapeutic method of finding meaning in all forms of existence, even the most sordid ones, and thus a reason to continue living. He was one of the key figures in existential therapy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Frankl

[The Avon Lady]

I just quoted Frankl to someone in an email the other day, about extremism.

[bookworm_020]

Back to topic: If they believe that is Pope John Paul II, can I sell them a piece of tast with an image of the Pope to them?:hmm:

Maybe the pope wasn't waving, maybe he was trying to say something about purgatory!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Maybe the pope wasn't waving, maybe he was trying to say something about purgatory!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

More likely that he just sent a homemade video from his current location.

[kiwi_2005]

Oh well if this turns them more to God then good for them. Not many religous ppl are willing to teach non belivers about God they're to high up on there pedestal to do that. To find out about God you either go out and get the bible and read it or you dont. Just dont count on any help cause they're too busy fighting wars over who is right :rotfl:

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

To find out about God you either go out and get the bible and read it or you dont.

Now how is that supposed to work? :hmm:

If there really would be a god out there, I insist on him/her/it telling me him-/her-/itself, I do not want to hear about him/her/it from anybody else, or read about him/her/it in a tabloid-style scripture. Until that meeting only my yelling laughter, because that is what it all deserves - if it ever should be made stopping just in time before having killed us all.