Look what the SH3 guys have come up with!

Bill Nichols · 09-30-07, 07:16 AM

Check this out!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=122780

mrbeast · 09-30-07, 07:33 AM

That is pretty cool now they just need to do an IS-WAS and a banjo for SH4!

AVGWarhawk · 09-30-07, 07:46 AM

That is quite clever and quite creative! We have some very talented people on this forum.

MONOLITH · 09-30-07, 09:06 AM

Wow. Thanks for the heads up Bill.

Okay, so who's going to jump on this for SH4?

joegrundman · 09-30-07, 07:47 PM

I was thinking of doing an ISWAS for SH4 after I'd finished with the SH3 mod. I already have some images prepared. Hadn't thought about a banjo. That was a hand operated angle-solver, right? So it's output would be similar to the SH3 TDC.

However I seem to recall hearing that there was a definite limit on putting new objects in the menu1024-768 file. Is this so, and what's the limit?

joe

Hitman · 10-01-07, 07:58 AM

The wiz-wheel for SH4 would be nice, specially for S-Boats, since it serves both as target data tool and angle solver. However, note that it has actually TWO rotational wheels in the back besides the fixed background, and I'm not sure if they can be operated without reseting the tool when you move the second

The banjo would suffer the same problem :hmm:

P.S. did you all know that german attack scopes had an integrated banjo in a second ocular?

Moveable scales in various colours could be dragged and rotated through handwheels to display the firing triangle through that ocular, and the captain could alternate between target and triangle view while looking through the scope just by opening or closing his left or right eye

joegrundman · 10-01-07, 08:53 PM

I think it could be done if you wanted a mod that completely removed the TDC+PK from the S-boats.

Did S-boats still have gyro-angle control, or were all Mk10 torps fired straight ahead?

Hitman · 10-02-07, 10:16 AM

Yes they were able to input any desired Gyro Angle into the torpedo. However, that Gyro was calculated with the Banjo and wiz wheels, not with the TDC

WernerSobe · 10-03-07, 02:05 AM

Hm stock SH4 actualy already have that. It doesnt look so detailed but it works. Its just many people dont realise that they have it.

Just look at the upper left corner of your TDC. The two dials IS actualy the wizwheel. The both rings are just not combined like in real. The upper ring represents the target with its true course. The lower your true course and torpedo course. You can solve gyro angle and angle on bow with it.

09-30-07, 07:16 AM	#1
Bill Nichols Master of Defense Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,502 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	Look what the SH3 guys have come up with! Check this out! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=122780 __________________ My Dangerous Waters website:

09-30-07, 07:33 AM	#2
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That is pretty cool now they just need to do an IS-WAS and a banjo for SH4! __________________

09-30-07, 07:46 AM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,277 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	That is quite clever and quite creative! We have some very talented people on this forum. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

09-30-07, 09:06 AM	#4
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wow. Thanks for the heads up Bill. Okay, so who's going to jump on this for SH4? __________________

09-30-07, 07:47 PM	#5
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	I was thinking of doing an ISWAS for SH4 after I'd finished with the SH3 mod. I already have some images prepared. Hadn't thought about a banjo. That was a hand operated angle-solver, right? So it's output would be similar to the SH3 TDC. However I seem to recall hearing that there was a definite limit on putting new objects in the menu1024-768 file. Is this so, and what's the limit? joe __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

10-01-07, 07:58 AM	#6
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	The wiz-wheel for SH4 would be nice, specially for S-Boats, since it serves both as target data tool and angle solver. However, note that it has actually TWO rotational wheels in the back besides the fixed background, and I'm not sure if they can be operated without reseting the tool when you move the second The banjo would suffer the same problem :hmm: P.S. did you all know that german attack scopes had an integrated banjo in a second ocular? Moveable scales in various colours could be dragged and rotated through handwheels to display the firing triangle through that ocular, and the captain could alternate between target and triangle view while looking through the scope just by opening or closing his left or right eye __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

10-01-07, 08:53 PM	#7
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	I think it could be done if you wanted a mod that completely removed the TDC+PK from the S-boats. Did S-boats still have gyro-angle control, or were all Mk10 torps fired straight ahead? __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

10-02-07, 10:16 AM	#8
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Yes they were able to input any desired Gyro Angle into the torpedo. However, that Gyro was calculated with the Banjo and wiz wheels, not with the TDC __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

10-03-07, 02:05 AM	#9
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Hm stock SH4 actualy already have that. It doesnt look so detailed but it works. Its just many people dont realise that they have it. Just look at the upper left corner of your TDC. The two dials IS actualy the wizwheel. The both rings are just not combined like in real. The upper ring represents the target with its true course. The lower your true course and torpedo course. You can solve gyro angle and angle on bow with it.

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