A few questions....

monkeymagoo · 09-29-07, 05:33 PM

Hi

Just getting back into SH4 after a bit of a break and was wondering if I could ask a couple of hopefully easy questions:

1) Whats' the difference between the Navigation map and attack map. It seems as though one is just a subset of the other without giving any extra features.

2) Same as 1) but for attack periscope vs observational periscope

3) I started my career this time in Easy mode. But I actually wanted to do all the calcs myself (believe it or not I was starting to get the hang of it last time!). Can I change difficulty levels mid career?

Really great game. Thanks!

Sailor Steve · 09-29-07, 05:40 PM

I haven't played SH4, but in real life the Nav Maps were just that - charts of the areas you were sailing through. The attack map was a blank chart, on which the plotter would put a mark representing the sub. All potential targets were placed in relation to that central point. In SH3 (and from the sound of it SH4 as well) the sub icon moves across the map, which is wrong. In AOD the attack map always had the sub at the middle. Oh well.

The Attack Periscope has higher magnifications and a narrower focus. The Observation 'scope doesn't magnify as far, but has a wider field of view, and also cranks up higher to look for enemy aircraft.

BladeHeart · 09-29-07, 06:11 PM

Hope this helps.

1) The Navigation map can be expanded to cover the entire pacific plus. The Attack map will show torpedo plots and track them once fires; depending on the realism setting and mods, it will also show ship silhouettes and where your own TDC clculation places the targetted ship.

2) The observation periscope is a wide angle tool, where the attack periscope is linked to the TDC, etc.

3) Do not think you can change whilst in mid patrol, becuase after setting the realism myself and then installing some mods I found that the realism setting had been altered and I cannot seem to change it back whilst on patrol. Hopefully, one can do that whilst back at the office. (asking that question on another thread myself).

As I said hope it helps.

Krauter · 09-29-07, 06:45 PM

Hi,

1) The attack map does not let you set waypoints, the nav. map however lets you do so as well as change them. The attack map is more accurate towards your immediate surroundings, also you may track the status of your torpedoes as well as set depth settings, det. means, etc on this map.

2) The attack periscope is a smaller periscope, thus harder to see. This periscope also has a greater magnification setting and helps you set up your attacks. The Observation periscope however is larger, thus easier to see. However, this size has the benefit of a wider field of view, as well as the ability to angle itself at a higher degree, thus giving you the capability of observing (hence the name..) the skies.

3) Changing the Realism Settings in mid-patrol is impossible, however in mid-career, albeit only whilst you are in the office refitting for the next patrol.

Hope this helps!

Krauter

monkeymagoo · 09-30-07, 04:30 AM

Hi Guys

Thanks for all your replies clearing up the differences for me. Very interesting to get in-depth information rather than just relying on the "manual" that comes with the game.

I'll start a new career since I had only just begun the last one anyway.

BTW I've been browsing these forums for all sorts of other bits of info and I was thinking that the amount of information some people seem to know makes me wonder if some of you were actually there at the time. Am I right? Was anyone on these forums actually involved with subs at the time? Pretty cool if it's true.

Thanks!

09-29-07, 05:33 PM	#1
monkeymagoo Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 35 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A few questions.... Hi Just getting back into SH4 after a bit of a break and was wondering if I could ask a couple of hopefully easy questions: 1) Whats' the difference between the Navigation map and attack map. It seems as though one is just a subset of the other without giving any extra features. 2) Same as 1) but for attack periscope vs observational periscope 3) I started my career this time in Easy mode. But I actually wanted to do all the calcs myself (believe it or not I was starting to get the hang of it last time!). Can I change difficulty levels mid career? Really great game. Thanks!

09-29-07, 05:40 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I haven't played SH4, but in real life the Nav Maps were just that - charts of the areas you were sailing through. The attack map was a blank chart, on which the plotter would put a mark representing the sub. All potential targets were placed in relation to that central point. In SH3 (and from the sound of it SH4 as well) the sub icon moves across the map, which is wrong. In AOD the attack map always had the sub at the middle. Oh well. The Attack Periscope has higher magnifications and a narrower focus. The Observation 'scope doesn't magnify as far, but has a wider field of view, and also cranks up higher to look for enemy aircraft. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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09-29-07, 06:11 PM	#3
BladeHeart Chief Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hope this helps. 1) The Navigation map can be expanded to cover the entire pacific plus. The Attack map will show torpedo plots and track them once fires; depending on the realism setting and mods, it will also show ship silhouettes and where your own TDC clculation places the targetted ship. 2) The observation periscope is a wide angle tool, where the attack periscope is linked to the TDC, etc. 3) Do not think you can change whilst in mid patrol, becuase after setting the realism myself and then installing some mods I found that the realism setting had been altered and I cannot seem to change it back whilst on patrol. Hopefully, one can do that whilst back at the office. (asking that question on another thread myself). As I said hope it helps.

09-30-07, 04:30 AM	#5
monkeymagoo Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 35 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi Guys Thanks for all your replies clearing up the differences for me. Very interesting to get in-depth information rather than just relying on the "manual" that comes with the game. I'll start a new career since I had only just begun the last one anyway. BTW I've been browsing these forums for all sorts of other bits of info and I was thinking that the amount of information some people seem to know makes me wonder if some of you were actually there at the time. Am I right? Was anyone on these forums actually involved with subs at the time? Pretty cool if it's true. Thanks!