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Old 08-31-07, 06:19 AM   #1
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hello i have got my sh4 running and when i sink ships i triy to rescue the crew through my binoculars but the rescue icon stays grey and i do not know how to save the crew so i have to shoot them with the 20mm machinegun.

if enybody could help me it would be apprieciated

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Old 08-31-07, 06:29 AM   #2
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This rescue option is only for american survivors like from the plane... The POWs are not allowed :P
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Old 08-31-07, 07:16 AM   #3
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... and i do not know how to save the crew so i have to shoot them with the 20mm machinegun.

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hmm, you wouldn't be commanding the USS Wahoo by any chance now, would you :hmm:
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Old 08-31-07, 08:43 AM   #4
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Arn't you the sweet one, even their own ppl leave them at sea (in this game)

Wouldn’t say any thing to the Admiralty though otherwise you’ll get a desk job for sure.
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Old 08-31-07, 04:02 PM   #5
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enyway i would shoot the japs than rescue them to bad so sad jap.

no i do not command USS Wahoo i dont think so:hmm:
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Old 08-31-07, 04:24 PM   #6
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lol they should make it where you can pick up enemy avatiors.
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Old 08-31-07, 05:31 PM   #7
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lol they should make it where you can pick up enemy avatiors.
I agree. It was done in real life.

You never know what that poor sot might know.
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Old 08-31-07, 06:08 PM   #8
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enyway i would shoot the japs than rescue them to bad so sad jap.

no i do not command USS Wahoo i dont think so:hmm:
Just so you know what I was referring to with the US Wahoo reference:

Wahoo, commanded by Dudley "Mush" Morton.
26 January 1943
3 Japanese Ships-Names Unknown
Pacific Ocean.
On his first patrol Morton torpedoed and sank three Japanese ships,one of
them a troop transport with thousands aboard.After surfacing, Morton, who
had an "overwhelming, biological hatred of the enemy", appeared determined
to kill every one of the thousands floating there.The Japanese in the boats
and in the water were subjected to more than an hour of shelling with
4-inch and 20mm rounds which ripped through timbers,flesh and bone,staining
the sea red,and attracting sharks.It was a total massacre.Morton made no
attempt in his subsequent report to hide the massacre.On arrival at Pearl
Harbour,Wahoo was flying a pennant with the boat`s slogan "Shoot the sunza
bitches" printed on it!!!Morton claimed to have sunk 5 Japanese ships
totalling 32,000 tons*,and became an instant hero in the US submarine
service.Admiral Lockwood christened Wahoo the one-boat wolf pack and most
unusually released the story of the patrol to the press.All US submarine
activities were normally kept secret to avoid giving the enemy any useful
information.Not for nothing was the submarine arm was known as the "Silent
Service".The massacre of the survivors from the transport was not
reported,nor questioned by the US Navy Stuff.
Morton was decorated with the "Navy Cross" medal!!
*(After the war this was reduced to 3 ships totalling 11,300
tons)
from Peter Padfield:"War Beneath the Sea: : Submarine Conflict During World War II", John Wiley & Sons, 1998
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Old 08-31-07, 09:05 PM   #9
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were there no rules of war or rules of engagement about that kind of thing?
Attacking unarmed men seems very distasteful. Even if they could have been rescued and returned to the fight at a later date, I still think that it was the wrong thing to do
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There were rules. Morton claimed that the survivors fired a machine gun at his crew first, so he obliterated them. Since he and Wahoo were lost on 09/11/1943 during her 7th patrol, and given the Wahoo was one of the high scoring US boats (119K+ tons in 6 war patrols), it never came up again until years later. Then, some historians tracked down some surviving crew members (the slaughter was on her 3rd patrol) who gave a very different description of the event then the original.

Basically, Morton hated the japanese and never hid that fact. Since it was a sympathy shared by a lot of command staff too, and since the Wahoo was such a successful boat, nobody was interested in atrocities, alleged or otherwise. Remember, the open, public sentiment at the time was "the only good jap is (was) a dead jap".
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Old 08-31-07, 10:36 PM   #11
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That particualar warpatrol of the USS wahoo was, and continues to be a source of great debate. Theres usually two sides to every story, and with this particular incident in histor, i think its subjected to alot of wordsmithing by both sides of the debate. Regardless of which side of the story one listens to, i think the one universal truth is that the pacifc was a very different theater, and the japanese a very different enemy as compared to other axis nations at the time.
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