So Im a dinosaur and dont get it.

Mush Martin · 08-26-07, 09:30 AM

Being Genuine twentieth century man
I am a little fuzzy on some of the subtlety's of the
future.

could someone please fill me in

What I dont understand is what is so useful about a no cd patch
outside of piracy?

that is to say what legitimate function is there for it?

melnibonian · 08-26-07, 09:49 AM

MM I don't think you will get an answer in this question. Let's say it's too delicate

Dowly · 08-26-07, 09:56 AM

The number 1 reason 'a friend of mine' likes to use them is that the CD/DVD disc is preserved. The 'friend of mine' have had numerous occasions where he have been going thru his games and found some very good old game he wants to play again, so he inserts the disc to his drive just to notice that it is too scratched to be used anymore.

Besides, it's easier than to make a backup of the disc (AFAIK, everyone has a right to make 1 backup of the disc you have purchased).

joegrundman · 08-26-07, 10:04 AM

Why should it be delicate? After all Ubisoft decided to bundle SH4 patch 1.3 with a nocd patch. Why would they do that if they didn't acknowledge that it makes life easier? I ask you, having patched SH4 to 1.3, do you still want to use the CD?

My last SH3 DVD broke from over use. I've had to buy the game again. Thankfully it's not very expensive, but if it had happened when it was still on first release price, i'd be less than thrilled. It was a hassle enough to get it shipped out to me as I live in Tokyo, and the price of the Japanese edition was just too much.

In addition, my DVD drive gets tired of being opened and closed all the time. Every now and again it throws a connection and then I have to reboot my PC. I guess I should fix it somehow.

Finally, my 18month old daughter just LOVES to play with my CD's left lying around, or extracted from the DVD drive, while I'm focused on nailing that Grosse Ladung.

None of these things cause problems for me when playing SH4, but I'm just not into that game quite so much....so yeah...I'd love for Ubisoft to release an official nocd patch. They've already done it for the expensive SH4, so why not for the budget price SH3?

Still, I'm a little bit curious as to WHY they released a nocd patch for SH4...

Mush Martin · 08-26-07, 10:07 AM

Thanks guys I just feel a little Naive somedays.

Oh good point

well at least im in touch with my feelings.

melnibonian · 08-26-07, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joegrundman

Why should it be delicate?

Because it is right on the border with the Forum Rules

TarJak · 08-26-07, 10:03 PM

AFAIK most "backups" of disks are unplayable without a No CD patch anyway.

StarFox · 08-26-07, 11:12 PM

there are pro's and cons for and against it

As some one who as without wanting to destroyed CD's having a no cd patch can come in handy now and then. however if you hard drive dies....your screwed

its really not hard to get around needing a cd, all you need is to know you way around the internet.

I dont so much mind having to use a cd. what i really hate is how some game companys, such as Sierra put the CD keys one little tiny slips of paper that are easy to lose. finding Key generators, now thats a bit harder.....and if only they printed the CD Key onto the manual...then it would not be a problem

sorry if im ranting, but it bugs me a bit

ReM · 08-27-07, 10:00 AM

Learn to master the art of google.....

IrischKapitan · 08-27-07, 10:28 AM

Just take care of your cd's, put them in there box when not using them, dont leave them so kids get at them and dont leave them lying around!
I have games from the Windows 95 era that are still playable because they stayed in there box!

Foghladh_mhara · 08-27-07, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrischKapitan

Just take care of your cd's, put them in there box when not using them, dont leave them so kids get at them and dont leave them lying around!
I have games from the Windows 95 era that are still playable because they stayed in there box!

The only place you can put cd's where kids cant get them is in a deep hole in the back garden. Children are resourceful little beggars and mine seem to have a streak of evil in them when it comes to discs.

Seeing as I'm a creature of happiness and light I can only assume they got it from their mother

08-26-07, 09:30 AM	#1
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	So Im a dinosaur and dont get it. Being Genuine twentieth century man I am a little fuzzy on some of the subtlety's of the future. could someone please fill me in What I dont understand is what is so useful about a no cd patch outside of piracy? that is to say what legitimate function is there for it? __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

08-26-07, 09:49 AM	#2
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	MM I don't think you will get an answer in this question. Let's say it's too delicate __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

08-26-07, 10:04 AM	#4
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Why should it be delicate? After all Ubisoft decided to bundle SH4 patch 1.3 with a nocd patch. Why would they do that if they didn't acknowledge that it makes life easier? I ask you, having patched SH4 to 1.3, do you still want to use the CD? My last SH3 DVD broke from over use. I've had to buy the game again. Thankfully it's not very expensive, but if it had happened when it was still on first release price, i'd be less than thrilled. It was a hassle enough to get it shipped out to me as I live in Tokyo, and the price of the Japanese edition was just too much. In addition, my DVD drive gets tired of being opened and closed all the time. Every now and again it throws a connection and then I have to reboot my PC. I guess I should fix it somehow. Finally, my 18month old daughter just LOVES to play with my CD's left lying around, or extracted from the DVD drive, while I'm focused on nailing that Grosse Ladung. None of these things cause problems for me when playing SH4, but I'm just not into that game quite so much....so yeah...I'd love for Ubisoft to release an official nocd patch. They've already done it for the expensive SH4, so why not for the budget price SH3? Still, I'm a little bit curious as to WHY they released a nocd patch for SH4... __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

08-26-07, 10:07 AM	#5
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys I just feel a little Naive somedays. Oh good point well at least im in touch with my feelings. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

08-26-07, 11:12 PM	#8
StarFox Engineer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado, USA Posts: 216 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	there are pro's and cons for and against it As some one who as without wanting to destroyed CD's having a no cd patch can come in handy now and then. however if you hard drive dies....your screwed its really not hard to get around needing a cd, all you need is to know you way around the internet. I dont so much mind having to use a cd. what i really hate is how some game companys, such as Sierra put the CD keys one little tiny slips of paper that are easy to lose. finding Key generators, now thats a bit harder.....and if only they printed the CD Key onto the manual...then it would not be a problem sorry if im ranting, but it bugs me a bit __________________ Devoted fan of the SS United States, America's Flagship! I dream of her second life....

08-26-07, 09:56 AM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	The number 1 reason 'a friend of mine' likes to use them is that the CD/DVD disc is preserved. The 'friend of mine' have had numerous occasions where he have been going thru his games and found some very good old game he wants to play again, so he inserts the disc to his drive just to notice that it is too scratched to be used anymore. Besides, it's easier than to make a backup of the disc (AFAIK, everyone has a right to make 1 backup of the disc you have purchased).

08-26-07, 10:03 PM	#7
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	AFAIK most "backups" of disks are unplayable without a No CD patch anyway.

08-27-07, 10:00 AM	#9
ReM Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brewsky, Galore Posts: 618 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Learn to master the art of google..... __________________ Daddy cool

08-27-07, 10:28 AM	#10
IrischKapitan Ensign Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Waiting for convoys of the coast of Donegal Posts: 227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just take care of your cd's, put them in there box when not using them, dont leave them so kids get at them and dont leave them lying around! I have games from the Windows 95 era that are still playable because they stayed in there box! __________________ ''Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better'' SAVE U 534!! http://www.atlantik-pirat.com/U-534page.htm

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