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Old 08-14-07, 07:41 PM   #1
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ATI Catalyst drivers 7.8 released

And yet again, you can get them from that same old usual place

http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

Based on quick testings I did
- Sun glare is surprise surprise still missing with my X1950XT...
- Green lines when using adaptive AA...
- Improved performance compared to any previous drivers

But think I'm finally done with ATI/AMD. Improved performance is a very nice thing but the failure to solve at least those two minor problems and most of all, the failure to even acknowledge these problems

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Old 08-14-07, 08:02 PM   #2
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new drivers

Thanks for the heads up on the new drivers.
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Old 08-14-07, 10:15 PM   #3
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@aad-marine

Are you really sure that your sun looks like this



As an ATI user, all you should have is that friggin' ugly disc which they don't even want to fix
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Old 08-14-07, 11:13 PM   #4
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I was so bothered by the lack of AA and AF this game needed
This shouldn't be a problem after 1.2 patch anymore. Or did they bring those back in the 1.1? Anyways, the AA and AF have been in there for sometime already

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EDIT: your right theres no sun glare, time to install new drivers.
Installing any known drivers won't fix that. I guess we ATI users just need to spam their customer support so badly that the only way to make us stop is to provide a fix for this :rotfl:

Anyways, more discussion about this sun glare problem
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=missing+glare
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Old 08-14-07, 11:40 PM   #5
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that sucks, i just installed 7.8 for nothing then.. so sad ATI users lack sunglare.
Report this problem to ATI customer support. I've already done this

Maybe they'll get interested enough to fix this if people start a major complaiment about this. I'll probable send them more spam about this again. First, I was thinking about ditching the whole ATI/AMD products and buy Nvidia 8800GTS but it's kind of pointless to buy DirectX 10 card at the moment. Also, another problem is DirectX 10.1. It needs a hardware of it's own to work...
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Old 08-15-07, 12:34 AM   #6
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I think the sun glare is over-rated unless you spend your life looking through a camera glare filter. I've used GF and ATI and over-all, I'm satisfied I get better performance for the buck with ATI. Most of the games I play rely on frame rates so I can respond to the action properly.
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Old 08-15-07, 01:57 AM   #7
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Personally, I would like to be the judge of is that sun glare over-rated or not. If I like it I turn it on and if I don't I just turn it off. I want to make that choice

Besides, for me this isn't as much about missing sun glare as it is a question of a driver support or lack of any kind of official answer into this problem. There's so many rumours around how this is a hardware issue etc. etc. so it would be pretty cool if ATI killed those rumours...

Anyways, I harrashed ATI once again about this issue. This time I only asked a reply for this problem. The last time when I reported this problem to them, they told me to report this issue to their driver crew which is kind of pointless. This game has been out for six months already so I'm guessing they are full aware about this but for some reason won't fix it. So the question remains, bad driver support or a hardware issue?
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Old 08-15-07, 06:55 AM   #8
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I have Adaptive AA on and set to quality i don't get no green lines? I also have sub glare, then again i'm on a x1900XT I have 7.7 installed btw, i'm debating if i should install 7.8 or not.
I wish I knew how you did that. I also have a 1900xt and I have 7.7 installed. It appears that no matter what driver I use I get those green borders on the edge of the screen.

I prefer to use NGO's optimized ati drivers, link, but they are still on 7.3. I hear they plan to release one that is based on 7.8. I know there isn't much hope, but hopefully they can fix the green lines, because I don't think ati ever will.
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Old 08-15-07, 08:32 AM   #9
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I have the green lines. I simply fixed it by adjusting the display. One click wider and one click taller on the display function and it is gone. But, when I take a screenshot the line is there so I simply crop it off.
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Old 08-15-07, 08:53 AM   #10
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Dear Mika,

The issue seems driver related, to report a bug in the driver, please submit feedback directly to the driver team at:

http://support.ati.com/ics/survey/su...D=486&type=web

If all other games work then the issue is not hardware related.

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Can't honestly say that ATI customer support sucks when it comes to answering quicly
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Old 08-15-07, 09:44 AM   #11
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So much concearn over sun glare... sheese.

Personally my ATI card is working fine and I have no plans to fix it.
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Old 08-15-07, 10:01 AM   #12
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I'll admit, this whole sun glare thingy is something very minor but isn't it just a bit alarming that ATI have had the first reports about this problem about six months ago and it's still not fixed? And games like Doom 3 and Quake 4 are getting constant optimizations in these drivers. Yeah, I know. Those games have kind of bigger audience than Silent Hunter 4 but I wouldn't call it a valid excuse to leave things broken in cases like this

Besides, the reason for this amount of concearn over the sun glare is probable because it seems to be something relatively small so how can it be still broken
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Yeah, I know. Those games have kind of bigger audience than Silent Hunter 4
Kind of ? LOL Ill bet its on the order of 1,000 to 1. Probably greater.
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Kind of ? LOL Ill bet its on the order of 1,000 to 1. Probably greater.
Definately greater! More like 10,000 to one...

Isn't it just great to know that crappy repeative pieces of crap like Doom 3 and Quake 4 are multi million sellers?
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Old 08-15-07, 11:51 AM   #15
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I am an ATI x1950 user as well and I have no sun glare. But, do you guys also get this:



See how the railings and other small objects have that "barber pole" look. Light, dark, light, dark. What is worse is that the dark stripe crawl up and down the rail when the sub rolls in the sea. VERY UGLY and VERY DISTRACTING when trying to enjoy the beauty of the simulation.

I have done a lot of research into this but I cannot make it go away. It has to do with the glare effect on those railing surfaces. The glare shading seems to not move completely when the rail moves and the effect it ruined.

I have seen this in some peoples screen shots so I know others have the issue. Do you guys have it? Do you know a solution?

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