Can you ID these two subs?

TarJak · 02-23-07, 03:32 AM

Does anyone know what these are?

GSpector · 02-23-07, 04:11 AM

After very close observation and looking at the smallest details in the picture you provided above, I am 100% certain that I can answer your question:
"Does anyone know what these are?"

Yes, I can. They appear to be 2 Subs moored together.

Do I get my Brownie point now

Linton · 02-23-07, 04:47 AM

Where did you get the photograph?The small boats,gondolas?? suggest it could be Venice or it looks like Malta.The RN operated from Venice in WW1.In fact one of their submarines was damaged so it was converted into an mtb!
I have had a look in a few books and it resembles a picture taken in Hong Kong,possibly in the 1930s.Can you send me a bigger version.

Mush Martin · 02-23-07, 05:19 PM

No I think these are british P class boats at valetta

give me a little bit to work on this

Mush Martin · 02-23-07, 05:40 PM

Ok after a Quick analysis (15 mins )

I say this is two O Class subs at Valletta harbour in malta
most likely Osirus and Otus which were based at malta
and survived the end of the war a closeup shows a
tuba ondeck on the righthand sub and crews on parade
on both foredecks.
I am certain its valetta harbour
see the picture of the black swan on my
photo restoration page.(folio 48)

This analysis was hasty and is not conclusive but they are UK subs
and I am 99% Certain on the location.

TarJak · 02-23-07, 10:51 PM

@Mush Martin - You are very close. Valetta harbour is spot on! and you got the class right. Accoring to the page where I found them they are HMAS Ottway and Oxley in Valetta Harbour in 1926.

http://www.museum.wa.gov.au/collecti...otwayoxley.asp

the site has a good Maritime history section with a dedicated RAN Submarine Heritage site which I'm going to add as a research link in the research thread for SHIII mods.

Western Australian Museum Maritime history collection:
http://www.museum.wa.gov.au/collecti...e/maritime.asp

Western Australian Museum Submarine Heritage collection:
http://www.museum.wa.gov.au/collecti...neheritage.asp

This site has some rare stuff I've not seen before plus a page listing all the submarines based in Fremantle during WWII. A must for the SHIV crew!

Mush Martin · 02-24-07, 03:55 PM

Well that felt good, my competence has been a little self concious
among these intellects.
thanks Jack
MM

Nice links too jack

TarJak · 02-24-07, 11:39 PM

Well spotted.

02-23-07, 03:32 AM	#1
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Can you ID these two subs? Does anyone know what these are?

02-23-07, 04:11 AM	#2
GSpector Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	After very close observation and looking at the smallest details in the picture you provided above, I am 100% certain that I can answer your question: "Does anyone know what these are?" Yes, I can. They appear to be 2 Subs moored together. Do I get my Brownie point now __________________ Specter

02-23-07, 04:47 AM	#3
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Where did you get the photograph?The small boats,gondolas?? suggest it could be Venice or it looks like Malta.The RN operated from Venice in WW1.In fact one of their submarines was damaged so it was converted into an mtb! I have had a look in a few books and it resembles a picture taken in Hong Kong,possibly in the 1930s.Can you send me a bigger version. __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Linton; 02-23-07 at 07:29 AM.

02-23-07, 05:19 PM	#4
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No I think these are british P class boats at valetta give me a little bit to work on this __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

02-23-07, 05:40 PM	#5
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ok after a Quick analysis (15 mins ) I say this is two O Class subs at Valletta harbour in malta most likely Osirus and Otus which were based at malta and survived the end of the war a closeup shows a tuba ondeck on the righthand sub and crews on parade on both foredecks. I am certain its valetta harbour see the picture of the black swan on my photo restoration page.(folio 48) This analysis was hasty and is not conclusive but they are UK subs and I am 99% Certain on the location. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

02-23-07, 10:51 PM	#6
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	@Mush Martin - You are very close. Valetta harbour is spot on! and you got the class right. Accoring to the page where I found them they are HMAS Ottway and Oxley in Valetta Harbour in 1926. http://www.museum.wa.gov.au/collecti...otwayoxley.asp the site has a good Maritime history section with a dedicated RAN Submarine Heritage site which I'm going to add as a research link in the research thread for SHIII mods. Western Australian Museum Maritime history collection: http://www.museum.wa.gov.au/collecti...e/maritime.asp Western Australian Museum Submarine Heritage collection: http://www.museum.wa.gov.au/collecti...neheritage.asp This site has some rare stuff I've not seen before plus a page listing all the submarines based in Fremantle during WWII. A must for the SHIV crew!

02-24-07, 03:55 PM	#7
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	My my Well that felt good, my competence has been a little self concious among these intellects. thanks Jack MM Nice links too jack __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

02-24-07, 11:39 PM	#8
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Well spotted.

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