Norway an enemy from 40-45?

jasonsagert · 01-23-07, 02:26 AM

Alright, this is confusing me. When, if at all, is Norway an enemy of germany? I was leaving Bergen, ran into a norweigen ship, checked the flag guide that is in the 'scope view and it showed norway as an enemy by '44 (which was the year).

What?--this seemed odd as I had just left a Norweigen port. OK, so I sink the ship and it goes down with the grey icon--which indicates to me that it wasn't an enemy but a neutral.

Question: Are Norweigen ships ever fare game?--or did I get the grey icon for some other reason. If they are never enemies, why are they listed as such on the flag recognition pull-down with the scope and UZO in GWX?

I'm confused.

J

_Seth_ · 01-23-07, 03:48 AM

Hi jas!
Norway was the enemy during the whole war. German occupied it, and used its ports to their own ships. (Take a look at safe-keepers Norops project, then you'll get the inputs on this).

jasonsagert · 01-23-07, 04:10 AM

Seth,

This makes sense--I'm a student of the war, but why did I get the Grey sunken ship Icon? I was ~10 km from the ship when it went down. Does the grey icon just mean that you know that a ship went down, but not what ship--neutral, enemy, or friendly?

It's the grey icon that's confusing me. Such a simple question, but I torp'ed the ship, turned to leave, it went down, and it showed up as a grey icon--why?

Damn, i've been playing this game since it came out and I really feel that I should know the answer to this

I feel that it was just that I was a little ways from it. Is this how it works?

J

_Seth_ · 01-23-07, 04:27 AM

Hmmm...interesting question. I am used to the sunken ships turning red on the map. It could possibly be, as you said mate, that the ship was "unknown".. If anyone could answer this, i would also like to know this.. (Have actually never thought about it..)

jasonsagert · 01-23-07, 04:45 AM

And to make the point more clear, it was a norweigin ship--Hell, I torp'ed it at 400m. The flag was obvious through the scope at that range. So, I'm sure that it wasn't a "neutral". Hmm....I guess the grey icon is just there to confuse me!!!

Damn Norweigens!!

But I thought of something that would explain it:hmm: If I torp'ed it, and then Goering's boys came and sunk it, well then that would explain it, 'cause then I really didn't sink it--which would explain the grey icon.

Just a hypothesis. And before you ask me if the sinking is in my log--I was pissed off and restarted that patrol without looking

J

Mooncatt · 01-23-07, 08:02 AM

may sound like a stupid question but what was the weather like???
the reason i ask is because in stock sh3 grey icons meant that they had sunk for natural reasons i.e severe weather or collision with another boat etc etc. so your fish may have just damaged her and they weather did the rest.
only a thought though and maybe wrong

01-23-07, 02:26 AM	#1
jasonsagert Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 113 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Norway an enemy from 40-45? Alright, this is confusing me. When, if at all, is Norway an enemy of germany? I was leaving Bergen, ran into a norweigen ship, checked the flag guide that is in the 'scope view and it showed norway as an enemy by '44 (which was the year). What?--this seemed odd as I had just left a Norweigen port. OK, so I sink the ship and it goes down with the grey icon--which indicates to me that it wasn't an enemy but a neutral. Question: Are Norweigen ships ever fare game?--or did I get the grey icon for some other reason. If they are never enemies, why are they listed as such on the flag recognition pull-down with the scope and UZO in GWX? I'm confused. J

01-23-07, 03:48 AM	#2
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Hi jas! Norway was the enemy during the whole war. German occupied it, and used its ports to their own ships. (Take a look at safe-keepers Norops project, then you'll get the inputs on this). __________________

01-23-07, 04:27 AM	#4
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Hmmm...interesting question. I am used to the sunken ships turning red on the map. It could possibly be, as you said mate, that the ship was "unknown".. If anyone could answer this, i would also like to know this.. (Have actually never thought about it..) __________________

01-23-07, 08:02 AM	#6
Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	may sound like a stupid question but what was the weather like??? the reason i ask is because in stock sh3 grey icons meant that they had sunk for natural reasons i.e severe weather or collision with another boat etc etc. so your fish may have just damaged her and they weather did the rest. only a thought though and maybe wrong __________________

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01-23-07, 04:10 AM	#3
jasonsagert Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 113 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Seth, This makes sense--I'm a student of the war, but why did I get the Grey sunken ship Icon? I was ~10 km from the ship when it went down. Does the grey icon just mean that you know that a ship went down, but not what ship--neutral, enemy, or friendly? It's the grey icon that's confusing me. Such a simple question, but I torp'ed the ship, turned to leave, it went down, and it showed up as a grey icon--why? Damn, i've been playing this game since it came out and I really feel that I should know the answer to this I feel that it was just that I was a little ways from it. Is this how it works? J

01-23-07, 04:45 AM	#5
jasonsagert Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 113 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	And to make the point more clear, it was a norweigin ship--Hell, I torp'ed it at 400m. The flag was obvious through the scope at that range. So, I'm sure that it wasn't a "neutral". Hmm....I guess the grey icon is just there to confuse me!!! Damn Norweigens!! But I thought of something that would explain it:hmm: If I torp'ed it, and then Goering's boys came and sunk it, well then that would explain it, 'cause then I really didn't sink it--which would explain the grey icon. Just a hypothesis. And before you ask me if the sinking is in my log--I was pissed off and restarted that patrol without looking J