An historical convoy question vs. GWX

_Seth_ · 01-21-07, 05:56 PM

If any of you have read the excellent book "Dönitz and the wolfpacks" by Bernard (!

) Edwards, you will notice the map at page 90, showing the route of convoy SC 94 from Sydney to the UK. What caught my attention, was that the convoys route went through the Bell Isle Strait, instead of going the "normal" way outside Cape Race / St. John's (as shown on the pic below):

My question is:

1: Why did the convoy select this route, and is this route a part of GWX?
If not; would the Bell Isle strait be to narrow to implement this route?

Tigrone · 01-21-07, 06:41 PM

SC 94 took the northern route because in high summer the ice had pulled back allowing them to, and it would keep them under air cover longer. This was very a very dangerous time and large wolfpacks were working east of Cape Race.

As it was, this became one of the major convoy battles of war. 11 ships were lost in the end. This convoy is where HMCS Assiniboine rammed and sank U-210 in a pretty desperate engagement in thick fog. I think one of the Assiniboine's crew got the Conspicuous Gallantry Medal for this action.

_Seth_ · 01-21-07, 06:50 PM

Thanx mate, that makes perfect sense! IIRC, Dönitz was aware of this convoys departure. Was he also aware of the route selected, or did he just assume that they would choose the northern route?
Edit: And was this route only used by eastbound convoys, from US to UK?

_Seth_ · 01-22-07, 08:47 AM

Bump..(sorry)

bigboywooly · 01-22-07, 10:47 AM

Sorry for bumping eh
:rotfl:
Any info on how many convoys did that route Seth ?

_Seth_ · 01-22-07, 11:02 AM

Atleast two...

:rotfl: I'll have to check the numbers. I think there was a large amount of the allied shipping going through that strait. I'll post the numbers ASAP.

Here is a quote from http://www.randomhouse.com/randomhou...5&view=excerpt:

Quote:

German U-boats in so-called wolf packs infested the Strait of Belle Isle, aptly referred to as Torpedo Junction, between Labrador and Newfoundland Island. They had already sunk scores of Allied ships in these swirling waters.

Some other links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_St._Lawrence

http://uboat.net/articles/?article=29

bigboywooly · 01-22-07, 01:41 PM

Something like this Seth ?

Added some other traffic through there as well

Have scripted SC 94 as a seperate now too
Complete with single and multimissions

Do me a favour and stop reading Seth

_Seth_ · 01-22-07, 05:57 PM

OH MAN OH MAN OH MAN!!!!!!!!!!! NOBEL PRICE TO YOU, BBW!!!!!

Stop reading....:rotfl::rotfl:Just wait, i have some more in the storage compartments for you!!! But this is excellent!!! Dang, you are good!

_Seth_ · 01-23-07, 08:35 AM

BTW BBW: Could this overwrite the existing RND file in GWX?

bigboywooly · 01-23-07, 09:29 AM

The Jan update will include an updated rnd and scr to take into account other changes
This will be a part of those new campaign files

_Seth_ · 01-23-07, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

The Jan update will include an updated rnd and scr to take into account other changes
This will be a part of those new campaign files

Ok, sounds great, mate!! I really appreciate this, you know!!

01-21-07, 05:56 PM	#1
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	An historical convoy question vs. GWX If any of you have read the excellent book "Dönitz and the wolfpacks" by Bernard (!) Edwards, you will notice the map at page 90, showing the route of convoy SC 94 from Sydney to the UK. What caught my attention, was that the convoys route went through the Bell Isle Strait, instead of going the "normal" way outside Cape Race / St. John's (as shown on the pic below): My question is: 1: Why did the convoy select this route, and is this route a part of GWX? If not; would the Bell Isle strait be to narrow to implement this route? __________________

01-21-07, 06:41 PM	#2
Tigrone Commander Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 470 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	The ice was gone, and there was more air cover SC 94 took the northern route because in high summer the ice had pulled back allowing them to, and it would keep them under air cover longer. This was very a very dangerous time and large wolfpacks were working east of Cape Race. As it was, this became one of the major convoy battles of war. 11 ships were lost in the end. This convoy is where HMCS Assiniboine rammed and sank U-210 in a pretty desperate engagement in thick fog. I think one of the Assiniboine's crew got the Conspicuous Gallantry Medal for this action. __________________ Commander Hiram Cassedy: "Tigrone has saved the Air Force and is now returning to Iwo Jima with 28 rescued zoomies." B-29 SNUFFY & THE SHIF'LESS SKONKS among them. I've a broom at the mast said he, for the broom is a sign for me, that wherever I go, I sweep the mighty sea.

01-21-07, 06:50 PM	#3
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Thanx mate, that makes perfect sense! IIRC, Dönitz was aware of this convoys departure. Was he also aware of the route selected, or did he just assume that they would choose the northern route? Edit: And was this route only used by eastbound convoys, from US to UK? __________________ Last edited by _Seth_; 01-22-07 at 08:47 AM.

01-22-07, 08:47 AM	#4
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Bump..(sorry) __________________

01-22-07, 10:47 AM	#5
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Sorry for bumping eh :rotfl: Any info on how many convoys did that route Seth ? __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

01-22-07, 01:41 PM	#7
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Something like this Seth ? Added some other traffic through there as well Have scripted SC 94 as a seperate now too Complete with single and multimissions Do me a favour and stop reading Seth __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41 Last edited by bigboywooly; 01-22-07 at 05:44 PM.

01-22-07, 05:57 PM	#8
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	OH MAN OH MAN OH MAN!!!!!!!!!!! NOBEL PRICE TO YOU, BBW!!!!! Stop reading....:rotfl::rotfl:Just wait, i have some more in the storage compartments for you!!! But this is excellent!!! Dang, you are good! __________________

01-23-07, 08:35 AM	#9
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	BTW BBW: Could this overwrite the existing RND file in GWX? __________________

01-23-07, 09:29 AM	#10
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	The Jan update will include an updated rnd and scr to take into account other changes This will be a part of those new campaign files __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

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