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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Read the article, the complaint was from "anti racism" groups, not "islamics".
"I've had enough of being led by the nose by this whole population which is destroying us, (and) destroying our country by imposing their ways." That's news to me, what exactly muslims imposed to france ?
Oh, yeah, muslim children can choose pork-free meals at school, big deal.
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What she said, could have been said by me, for I do not see it different. I fail to see racism in it. she complains about the behavior of certain parts of the population, and I have no problem to understand why. I could tell the same to some of those customers that for over 6 years (before I quite the job short ago) came to my cashdesk in a store and still do not speak one word of german - but expect me to spend time to understand their gestures, and talking with hand and feet myself - and often even complain when they do not get what they want.
"Learn the language of this country instead of demanding me to learn yours, Trottel. If that minimal politeness towards your hosts after seven years is still demanded too much - goodbye and farewell, nobody here will miss you. we will not even wonder why you ever came here - if you never had plans to adapt and integrate."
I rank the last part of "what exactly muslims impose on france" as a rethorical bait. If you read here since a while, you know the wide range of answers anyway, for it has been repeated often enough. Indirectly even just in my posting above. I had German example son my mind, but what I said has validity in France, Britain, Denmark, Norway and others places as well.
BTW, in Britain they cannot only choose meals without pork meat, as you thought it to be important to be mentioned by you, but some ministry ordered it's employees not to eat pork themselves anymore, in order to avoid offending Muslims.
and by europoean laws you cannot demonstrate against Islam and are no longer aloowed to critizise it withiut being sued by the anti-disrimination law. That is the legal basis the British justive referred to when taking a schoolboy under arrest who held up a poster during a demonstration against scientology, that rerad: "Scientology is not a religion, but a cult." Saying your opinion in public and implying that scientology may not be a religion, but a cult, is under penalty, because "cult" hurts sensible scientology emotions - that the poster is saying the truth, is unimportant. Let the truth not stand in our ways, right? . you are allowed to say your opinion only when you agree with the status quo and the opinion tendencies of those who make these laws. So:
Rule number one: the law has the final word, so make sure you brought yourself into a position where you can influence the law according to your interest. and that interest is - to close the circle - for many muslims, for scaringly many muslims especially in Britain, but in other natio0ns as well - sharia instead of Western law. and then you are at the besieged german courts again, and you remeber that a true Islam withi9ut Sharia is a western dillusion, and is not possible to be separated. Cutting our sharia from the rest of islam is like burning that third or so of the Quran that is incompatible with western culture and constitutions - or deleting the four gospels from the new testament. Yeds, you have something left afterwards, and you are free to call it a reformed version of the ancient matter. Nevertheless, no matter how you call it, it has nothing to do with Islam (or the new testament) anymore. The deal is all, or nothing at all. Eklecticism was not part of Muhammad' thinking, but total control. and the Quran and it's thinking reflect that.