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Originally Posted by MSgalileo
Give me an exmaple of UN sanction that force a country to stop anything, you try with North Korea, Irak and other and what was the result?.
Governement dindn't care about UN sanction and this is the poeple of those country who suffer and then support their gvt by the way (this is just improve the Nationalism).
So before voting an another useless UN sanction we can try to speak then if ther is not response, time to make a UN vote and get an another useless text.
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Can't help but agree with you completely on this, as well as what you said above about terrorism not having been invented on 9/11 as so many seem to think and act as though it was, and also agree that the
only effective way to fight terrorism is with police, intel, and special forces - and not regular armies, airforce, and cruise missles. And even then, with the right tools (police, intel, etc) we are still only fighting the symptoms but we are at least doing that much effectively and not making it any worse.
That is what is so wrong with both the US and Israeli approach to terrorism, though the Israelis at least have more experience with it, their methods have accomplished zero in the last 70 years while in the meantime, by their own admission, in having spent so many years doing little else besides harrassing old women at check points and bulldozing homes, their combat readiness and effectiveness had become so diminished that even they admit that their "elite" military units got their asses handed to them by the overwhelmingly numerically and technologically inferior Hezbollah "army" as soon as the ground war began (and this despite several weeks of softening them up with an intensive, prolonged, and indiscrimate bombing campaign).
The US government has simply imported the proven failure of the Israeli approach to anti-terrorism, but with none of their experience or willingness to go the distance regardless of whether or not it works (since for Israel it is life or death, right or wrong, while for the US the nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan were purely optional overseas adventures that the American people seems to be losing their taste for) and in Iraq and Afghanistan, both disasters, we are seeing the consequences while year after year the statistics on terrorist attacks continue to rise worldwide.
And, as you point out, all that tough talk, bullying, and sanctions accomplish is to instill strenghthened support for the very government one seeks to isolate/overthrow, and promote nationalism which is an especially dangerous thing in places like Iran where a rise in anti-Americanism and nationalism will have a direct effect on the people's willingness to support and undertake terrorist attacks against the West... we are merely engaging in a self-fulfilling prophecy now where we have become so afraid and belligerent toward this vast "them" that we only encourage the very acts we think are fighting. And again Iraq, where terrorism was virtually unknown before the US invaded it (after a decade of sanctions), has become the poster child that symbolizes exactly why the US approach is a failure and what the consequences are (increased instability, increased violence, increased terrorism, and an emergent unstable Islamic theocracy that will be a better breeding and training ground than Afghanistan ever was even before 9/11).
Anyway, end of rant for now.
