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Old 02-08-21, 07:15 AM   #30
ikalugin
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Interesting answers from all.

Really difficult to say because things have grown so unpredictable. Never would have predicted 2016 and was surprised Biden defeated Trump in the manner he did. I find the mass mail in vote suspect but if they had evidence, feel it would have been out there. Would take one massive conspiracy for courts to ignore evidence, especially the Trump appointed Judges.

Barring some catastrophe I believe will be better off but much different. Mainly due to the advances in technology and frankly, as large numbers of less open minded people who tend to be older die off. The current group of 18-22 years are much maligned and their social habits annoy me immensely, but since began teaching, they are actually an inspiring bunch overall. They are socially conscious and act on these convictions, something I did not see among the rank and file of my generation ( I am 35) for the most part. This generation is not one which will tolerate going through life not being paid a living wage nor watching others suffer same fate, or a nation without universal health coverage, vacation, sick leave, parental leave, you know things most of the civilized world have. They are willing to take on corrupt institutions such as wall street. With automation becoming a major factor in our economy in next twenty years, a Universal Basic Income such as that proposed by Andrew Yang will not doubt become a necessity. There will be growing pains and plenty of ugliness but believe it will work out fine in the end.

On the other hand, can see us being a in a pseudo 1984 by then. Difficult to tell really.
The issue is that the road to hell is paved with best intentions and highly cooperative people tend to be a key component in totalitarian regimes as they form the outer party.

In general my concern is that identarianism is being used by the elites to distract from the real underlying problems of society (such as stagnating wages despite rising productivity).

So I am not optimistic, I believe that public movements who’s work is required to achieve positive outcomes (such as UBI that is considered by some to be the answer to automation) are being subverted by the powers that be and atomised.

And lack of leaders rather than influencers is going to make those movements impossible to control eventually, leading to mass public strife.
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