As for my simply stipulating that Fahr... made the claim and Steve denying that he did so, here are some, but not all the holocaust denials by Fahr... in this thread:
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Originally Posted by Cybermat47
11000000 people are known to have died in the Holocaust alone.
Originally posted by Fahr...That's absolutely wrong, but I don't have the right to talk about this subject on this forum.
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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn
If revisionist thesis on Jews' extermination were wrong, it would be easy for historians to organize a debate in which they would eventually ridicule the liars. But what happens is the opposite ! The revisionist historians are asking for a debate for years, and the only answer is always : this historical fact is incontestable. So I say : we have the right to request proof of the official historians' competence prior to believe them. They have to debate... but now, it is forbidden ... strange, isn't it ?
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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn
But in the facts, that's what happens in France, because persecution is the ONLY answer to the revisionist's thesis, which is far from ridiculous and light. Some historians have worked over 50 years of their life on the subject.
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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn
This is obvious that you never heard about revisionists's thesis. Otherwise, you would not say that they are nasty liars ! ...
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So Fahr...has repeatedly denied the holocaust. And others have taken him up on it without being warned because they were merely (as I have been) replying to a subject already opened by Fahr...
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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn
Not at all. Here in France, it's literally forbidden to express our opinions on certain historical subjects. Even historians are brought to justice. There is an OFFICIAL thesis (based on a contradictory story, by the bye), and you MUST believe in it.
Yes, exactly. But it is the only way to prevent a debate to take place.
If revisionist thesis on Jews' extermination were wrong, it would be easy for historians to organize a debate in which they would eventually ridicule the liars. But what happens is the opposite ! The revisionist historians are asking for a debate for years, and the only answer is always : this historical fact is incontestable. So I say : we have the right to request proof of the official historians' competence prior to believe them. They have to debate... but now, it is forbidden ... strange, isn't it ?
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Originally Posted by Catfish
The re-education is of course a fact.
That does not automatically imply that it consisted partially or completely of outright lies.
Nor does it imply that the killings of minorities did not take place.
Some facts, please, and not a book list.
Also, i find it always "interesting", how - on one side - the killing is outright denied, but on the other hand the people claiming the denial obviously have not much sympathy for those minorities, may it be back then or today. So they do have an agenda, and one can easily deduct what would happen, if those people came to power again.
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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn
That's wrong. Even some Jewish intellectuals and rabbis admit that revisionits say the truth. And the only question here is : is it right or wrong ? and not : is it "good" or "bad".
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Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn
Good, so don't say that what I say is absurd before I've started to speak.
For having a better idea on the official story, please see here :
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The video by David Irving is a video denying the holocaust, introduced by Fahr....
How many times must he specifically deny the holocaust existed before he becomes a holocaust denier? This is not even all the times Fahr... made this claim. I just stopped looking when this post got to ridiculous length. I say whatever standard you wish to erect, he has surpassed it. I stand on my factual statements. They are nothing but a repeating and repudiation of his clearly stated position in this thread.