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Originally Posted by Schroeder

No, but that didn't keep us from committing some of the worst crimes this planet has ever seen with most people not doing much against that may it have been because of fear or because they didn't care/know or because they actually supported it. In the end what does it matter? The ideology was capable of finding enough willing helpers just as Islam finds enough people to fuel Daesh, Boko Haram, the Taliban etc.

Every ideology finds violent supporters of it, especially if you get some who encourage that violence.

No, and I never said we were supposed to kill all Muslims. It's the ideology that's evil and must be fought in my opinion. We actively fight Nazism while inviting Islam even though both ideologies are of the same evil. You can't be for one but against the other as both are way too similar in how they want to achieve their goals and control your every day life.
How can we justify to ban the swastika but allow symbols of another totalitarian ideology with the same mindset?
To me Nazism and Islam are pretty much two sides of the same coin. Both are intrusive ideologies that claim absolute supremacy over everyone else, both want to control their followers and/or force everyone into obedience and both don't allow different opinions or else.

Then tell me, how do you fight 'Islam' without fighting every single Muslim on the planet? It's like saying that you must fight Christianity, or fight Sikhism, you are going to force every single follower of that religion into the defensive, and you are going to create that holy war that the radical followers of that religion want you to create.
In short, by fighting Islam, you're doing what Daesh wants you to do.
GG.

I want neither ideology to gain influence in my country. To me we have opened the flood gates for refugees with a mindset like in Nazi Germany around 1937.
Imagine it's 1937 and you have several million people from Nazi Germany in your country. Actually some have been there for more than 40 years. They still speak German (and often times very little or no English at all and even actively refuse to learn it), wear brown shirts with swastika arm badges, frenetically cheer for Adolf Hitler when he visits your country and greet each other with Heil Hitler.

We had those, they were called followers of Oswald Mosley. The most active and virulent fascists who refused to behave were interred and those who just quietly expressed their beliefs carried on as normal.
Heck, in America a fascist owned one of their biggest car manufacturing companies, and another one was a big politician.
I don't believe it would be particularly wise to set up camps for Muslims, like Donald Trump wants to, but I have no problem with imprisoning Islamic extremists.

Of course there is also a portion who in fact did manage to integrate but it's probably not much more than 50% (if that much) and even though they are 3rd generation Brits they are still named Hans and Günter.
Would you consider that a problem? I would.

I have no problem with a third generation Brit being called Hans or Gunter, most of our names are from foreign countries anyway. My name has its origins in Hebrew I believe.

However if we replace "People from Nazi Germany" with Immigrants from Islamic countries everything is cool all of a sudden and we shouldn't worry too much.

In my opinion we need to push back Islam just as much as we need to push back Nazism. We shouldn't encourage it to grow here. But that makes me a Neo Nazi, fascist, xenophobe etc.

Why are both ideologies measured with different scales?

Probably because if all Muslims were the evil scumbags you seem to think they are then we'd be dead by now, since there are 2 billion odd of them.