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Old 08-14-13, 11:22 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 View Post
Basically, a lot of people in here are supportive of dear leader and dislike my remarks about him, I get it.I'll attempt to tone it down and see how it works.I assure you, they will continue to act the same.
You see Bubblehead - this is where you have a little considering to do. Those who blindly support the "dear leader" don't care about the truth. No amount of reality is going to change their minds. Yell it from the mountaintops, they will simply cover their ears. The tone you use doesn't matter - to them.

Where it does matter - is to those on the fence. When you have an honest debate, instead of simply spew "dislike" or talking points that can be proven skewed or inaccurate - you turn those people on the fence, away from your side. The moment you resort to stretching the truth when the truth is evident if one merely glances at it - or the moment you start something out with vitriol - you become just one more yelling voice in the sea of yelling voices. Some pro, some con - but all just a big overlapping noise that convinces no one.

On the other hand, if you make a reasoned, fact based argument, you have a good shot at winning the day for your viewpoint. To paraphrase Rush Limbaugh - "Liberals can not win in the arena of ideas". Because of this, they yell and scream and insult and lie (No - not all of them - but the ones that get the media attention). They know they can't win in the arena of ideas or of truth, so they distract and count on volume instead of accuracy. When you resort to the same type of tactics - you end up getting discounted right along with rest.

It is folks (of either political "stripe") that can - either consistently or even occasionally - come to the arena of ideas (and truth) and argue their points and perspectives with reason and dignity - that not only win the day, but often find very common ground with their opponents. In those cases, it is surprising how often real solutions can be created. You also might learn that some on the "other side" are not so bad. For example, Mookie and I disagree on a LOT of things, but I have found that we usually are not nearly as far apart as one might imagine... Volume counts for less than substance to many.....

Or else you can be mistaken for, as Shakespeare once wrote and General Chang quoted like no other Master Thespian could have done:

"..... an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Don't be that guy.
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