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Originally Posted by Kloef
while they sit back and hold their hand up 
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Maybe not that simplistic in the individual family and household. But the Greek state is a total and complete mess. I would even ask whether it really is a functional state in modern understanding. However, as long as the Greek population does not raise against the criminal and corrupted elites and make short process with them, I do not see any reason why they should deserve any form of solidarity. Instead. since years always the same liars and cheaters and gangster get elected and send to Brussel to get more money.
But the fight of the elites against the people seems to be a red trail throughout Greek history. And I doubt I live long enough to finally see them coming to terms with the modern present, sorting their state and send their corrupt elite as well as their own corrupt mentality to hell where both belong. The overblown Greek bureaucracy already was famous in the Roman empire, because it helps to deceive over the real dimension of the nepotism and bribery haunting the place.
Young Greeks with good education who are well-trained craftsmen and academics, I would like to see being welcomed in Germany. We could really use them, and we should help to make them feel home here so that they stay for life. Demographics and aging of society force us into the defensive, we need qualified migrants willing to integrate. Same is true for the Spaniards. I do not know to what degree bureaucratic realities in Germany really are that inviting to foreigners, but these two groups belong to those that really should be welcomed by us. Criterion must be qualification, willingness to fully integrate (which imo is an obligation to provide by any migrant in any country he moves to) and the realistic perspective of turning into net tax payers instead of remaining to be net wellfare receivers (means the qualification of the migrants must be in need in the hosting country).