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WOW what can i say the Muslim flood is really getting on your nerves there...stop being such hypocrite.
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Now that is so dramatic and graphic another foreskin man comes to our rescue....  |
Let's try to stay serious here, shall we? If you can't discuss this rationally, no one is forcing you to participate in the thread
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I just wonder what are the statistical complications due to piercing or tattooing.
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very relevant point. I'll get back to this below.
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Originally Posted by Rockstar
OK, the issue at hand is circumcision. It is a medical procedure routinely done at birth and a procedure done on the 8th day according to the law of Moses.
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Utterly irrelevant. European courts do not make decisions based based on scripture from 3000 years ago.
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I was circumcised at my parents request, Im perfectly fine.
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Your anecdote aside, lots of babies which undergo circumcision do
not turn out perfectly fine. Some grow up wishing their parents had left their bodies alone. Some suffer complications. A miniscule number dies. What is gained? Something as archaic as tradition and religious rites.
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What the heck is your issue with it? Mind your own business, leave me and my parents out of your holier than thou hypocritical self righteousness rants.
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The irony here is this is exactly what we're trying to do. We are objecting to adults performing surgery on babies without their consent. In effect, we want a nation where adults do not impose their archaic traditions and religious beliefs onto infants.
If circumcision is to be allowed, why not purely cosmetic snipping of female babies' genitalia? Note that I say
purely cosmetic, as in, a visible difference but, unlike male circumcision, no ill effects to, say, sex life? What if I was to tattoo a scarlet "A" for atheism on my infant's calf? Or decide to cut its eartips off? If you wouldn't permit these practices, why permit circumcision of non-consenting babies?
What do you say we "mind our own business" and permit Muslems to make cosmetic alterations to their babies' vaginal areas? We don't want to be jerks, now do we?
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Why I care? For the same reason why i care when children in my neighbourhood would get beaten up by parents, or would get hurt by their parents, of would get abused.
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Another very good point. "Spanking" doesn't even cause permanent physical changes in the body of the child, yet surprise surprise, it's banned in many countries.