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as long as were not competeing with each other and as long as were sharing the results we cannot go that far wrong in the end---only reason i'm here is that i'm utterly fed up playing a dang screen saver--same as every one else-problesm with the DD's--the changes i make are based on the information as shared by every-one else and i hope that is the spirit of the thread

if you keep pouring water into a dry well long enough the bucket will float to the surface--and in that bucket will be the answer--- LOL- bit airy fairy--but that's precisely what's happening--
every idea suggested and tried here pours another gallon of water into the well!
and lets face it we can at least SEE the bucket now!!